Anyone have any new info on Tantra 2?>

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martinjuenke
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5363 posts since 28 Dec, 2015 from Hanover, Germany

Post Tue Oct 05, 2021 12:00 pm

I see only what I want to see...

bonch
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32 posts since 23 Aug, 2005

Post Tue Oct 05, 2021 12:17 pm

Teksonik wrote:
Tue Oct 05, 2021 12:00 pm
bonch wrote:
Tue Oct 05, 2021 11:55 am
This is what I see.

Screen Shot 2021-10-05 at 1.54.52 PM.png
What resolution are you running?
I'm on a retina MacBook Pro. What happens if you resize the GUI?

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Teksonik
KVRAF
16440 posts since 16 Sep, 2001 from Las Vegas,USA

Post Tue Oct 05, 2021 2:22 pm

Same thing. I've tried all the sizes that Tantra 2 will allow and all the Scaling options.

That may confirm my suspicions that Dmitry might have programmed it on Retina or HiDPI what ever you want to call it and did not test on other resolutions.

1920x1080 serves me very well here with the hundreds of other plugins I own and they all look perfectly fine so I don't know why Tantra 2 looks so bad but it's all but unusable here. I would think that 1920x1080 is still a pretty common resolution for desktops.

If we're going to start seeing plugins that are "HiDPI" only then that's fine I might be incentivized to upgrade but not for Tantra 2 because even if it was perfectly readable I find it drab, lifeless, and uninspiring in it's color palette.

Again Style is very much a personal preference but to me Tantra 2 is simply a huge step backwards.
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bonch
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32 posts since 23 Aug, 2005

Post Tue Oct 05, 2021 3:06 pm

I dragged the window to a secondary display that has a standard DPI, and this is what I see, which looks different from yours.
Screen Shot 2021-10-05 at 4.59.45 PM.png
I was able to increase legibility even further by increasing the GUI scale factor. Wish I could offer a workaround for you.
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c_voltage
KVRAF
2038 posts since 16 May, 2004 from Soviet Union

Post Tue Oct 05, 2021 3:37 pm

Welcome to the resize. (Joke) Well, actually that seems obviously that than more simple design, then more easy be implemented resizing. And further it can be called differently (more modern, cold, serious, etc).
It's good when the user frankly likes it, but becomes a little sad when you feel in this some victim of adaptation to a certain technical limitation. (Especially for those who remember how different the interfaces could be, in an artistic sense).
But, such "depersonalization" this is natural part of progress, like some unification / template-ation. And whether it is worth resisting what is inevitable, is difficult to say.
I myself do not know how to relate to this, but something is definitely lost in perception, being compared to v1 UI.

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PatchAdamz
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7313 posts since 13 Nov, 2012

Post Tue Oct 05, 2021 4:05 pm

The new GUI is an improvement and looks better.

Hanallred
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9 posts since 5 Oct, 2021

Post Tue Oct 05, 2021 8:28 pm

I just got my first $50 loyalty voucher. Should I get this at $50 or Bx_true peak at $80?

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Xbucket
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141 posts since 17 Sep, 2019

Post Tue Oct 05, 2021 11:36 pm

Anyone got any infos about a possible update from version 1? I've sent them a mail but no answer so far.

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Tj Shredder
KVRAF
6412 posts since 6 Jan, 2017 from Outer Space

Post Wed Oct 06, 2021 1:01 am

On the PA site for Tantra scroll down.
Its $49 for v1 users. Just don‘t do it…
Its $99 for users of Thorn. If you have $75 voucher you can consider it, or if you can afford to support Dmitry with some extra cash. All others simply wait…

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LeVzi
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3682 posts since 8 Jul, 2008 from UK

Post Wed Oct 06, 2021 1:22 am

Tj Shredder wrote:
Wed Oct 06, 2021 1:01 am
On the PA site for Tantra scroll down.
Its $49 for v1 users. Just don‘t do it…
Its $99 for users of Thorn. If you have $75 voucher you can consider it, or if you can afford to support Dmitry with some extra cash. All others simply wait…
I own a few things from PA, and I never get these vouchers ?
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Tj Shredder
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6412 posts since 6 Jan, 2017 from Outer Space

Post Wed Oct 06, 2021 1:39 am

I only get $25 vouchers, I probably bought enough and too few at the same time…

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LeVzi
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3682 posts since 8 Jul, 2008 from UK

Post Wed Oct 06, 2021 1:59 am

Tj Shredder wrote:
Wed Oct 06, 2021 1:39 am
I only get $25 vouchers, I probably bought enough and too few at the same time…
I don't even get them, I guess there's a threshold you have to go over in purchases to get them.
"Part Man, Part Machine, Part Bird, Part Drum - It's Robo-bongo-cuckoo-cop" - James Acaster

macmuse
KVRian
627 posts since 23 Jun, 2004

Post Wed Oct 06, 2021 5:50 am

LeVzi wrote:
Wed Oct 06, 2021 1:59 am
I don't even get them, I guess there's a threshold you have to go over in purchases to get them.
I had stopped getting them a while back, and it was that they somehow weren't coming through to my inbox nor my spam box. I emailed PA and now I get them again.

chk071
KVRAF
30020 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany

Post Wed Oct 06, 2021 5:53 am

Well, if Tantra 2 is available for $39.99 one day, and I get a $20 voucher on top of that, I will get it for sure. I actually think the GUI is quite nice. Looks much worse on the screenshot than it really is.
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Scotty
KVRAF
2368 posts since 23 Dec, 2002

Post Wed Oct 06, 2021 5:58 am

PatchAdamz wrote:
Tue Oct 05, 2021 4:05 pm
The new GUI is an improvement and looks better.
OK. That settles it.

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