Bitwig 4.2 Beta Discussion

[SLiC]

Well, someone wake Antic at least. Maybe he's in the Polish Army Reserve and got called up to the front

He's banned.

Again! What did he do this time

[splittapes]

Nice update - another feature convincing me to purchase!

[u-u-u]

First I have to say I'm very happy about the upgrade.

But still there some aspects of note effects that still aren't covered by the Grid concept:

Example 1: Building an Arpeggiator - All notes that are pressed simultaneously need to be collected into a common "pool" which is automatically sorted in some way (to enable running them in a sequence in a certain order / arp pattern).
Example 2: There is no way of mixing up a step order. Imagine the step values to be indices from 0 to 4 but you want to be able to shuffle the order so that each one is played only once until the new random repeats. ([1,3,2,0,4] would be OK, but not [0,1,2,2,4])
Example 3: Ricochet - simultaneuos notes can "collide" with each other. How to achieve this in a Grid where all voices are seperate from each other?

Maybe you have some ideas on how to get those concepts up and running with the Grid? Otherwise I'd consider them as a shortcomings of the current version.

[machinesworking]

Not sure if I'll ever use it, or what for, but I know many people wanted "Note Grid", so congrats!

I had a great Logic Environment step sequencer modeled after the first modular CV step sequencers, which was a lot of fun, before the Environment became too scary to mess with barring screwing up other parts of Logic.

Being able to emulate that in Bitwig is pretty cool.

[The Mantra]

"I can finally realize my dream of creating a self-aware midi sequence"
-Polarity

[Dionysos]

And that was the last we heard from him.

[xbitz]

First I have to say I'm very happy about the upgrade.

But still there some aspects of note effects that still aren't covered by the Grid concept:

Example 1: Building an Arpeggiator - All notes that are pressed simultaneously need to be collected into a common "pool" which is automatically sorted in some way (to enable running them in a sequence in a certain order / arp pattern).
Example 2: There is no way of mixing up a step order. Imagine the step values to be indices from 0 to 4 but you want to be able to shuffle the order so that each one is played only once until the new random repeats. ([1,3,2,0,4] would be OK, but not [0,1,2,2,4])
Example 3: Ricochet - simultaneuos notes can "collide" with each other. How to achieve this in a Grid where all voices are seperate from each other?

Maybe you have some ideas on how to get those concepts up and running with the Grid? Otherwise I'd consider them as a shortcomings of the current version.

triads in arp out, Note Grid to poly to 6+ and MIDI channel-based separation seems to do the trick, but I've dropped to the prev page, if you play live that's still a good question

just wanted to create some proof of concept stuff, but I'm a simple guy with simple needs anyway (there are far better dedicated VSTs for this like BlueArp etc.) I just need drums/bass patterns in Bitwig

[wentzelitis]

weird i just talked myself out of buying a chorus vst last week because i was able to get better results with bitwig's stock chorus. now i'll have an additional bonus one to play with anyway. oh yeh the note grid looks great

[PhilipVasta]

Just a quick thought - as long as they were updating some basic effects, I really wish they would have revisited Reverb. That really needs some love.

[Pasaje]

weird i just talked myself out of buying a chorus vst last week because i was able to get better results with bitwig's stock chorus. now i'll have an additional bonus one to play with anyway. oh yeh the note grid looks great

Same here. I was starting to consider purchasing Arturia's FX collection on the next summer sale.

[billcarroll]

Looks like Bitwig made a few small interface changes.

I'm seeing rounded corners for the application window now. Not sure what else has been updated.

[ericj23]

My plan ran out a week ago. And I like the sound of this update!

[D.K Envelope]

okay my friend when everybody just send me 1$
i can afford this upgrade
so please

[kurt008]

I use Bitwig on a Debian (Bullseye) system (running on an AMD Ryzen 9 5950x with 64G RAM...)
Interestingly I'm unable to even find Note Grid (it's not displayed at) all. I uninstalled Bitwig, installed 4.1 (and started it) because I also recognized a very strange behaviour: Immediately after opening a project file saved on vers. 4.1 beta 5 some midi controller dialogue was active... together with a mapping mode (although no controller was connected... and I was unable to leave this mapping mode). I had to close Bitwig Studio and open a new project to get rid of this controller mapping mode (!).
And when creating a new track... my first thought was to insert a Note Grid... but when opening the device browser on the empty track.... no Note Grid was available... only the Poly Grid... as if I ran the old version of Bitwig Studio.

Any confirmation? Any idea how to make it work?

Edit:
A corrupt profile caused the problem. After deleting the old profile and re-installing Bitwig Studio 4.2 Beta 1 everything worked as expected.

[j wazza]

After a first quick test, I don't think the example presets for the Midi Grid do the new possibilities justice.
None of them inspired me at all, but I find it easy to work with and it should be fun to roll our own

Cheers,

Tom

cmon we instantly able to separate chord notes by channel numbers (Note Grid is poly one able to process chords)

and able to chop them to smaller parts (FL channel rack, Nora) perfect for drum/bass/arp patterns (even shuffle is working nicely just put the image to full screen)

I'm confused how to do this, seperating chords by channel numbers, could you explain a bit more what you mean please? Id appreciate it a lot if you could!

I saw your other post:
'triads in arp out, Note Grid to poly to 6+ and MIDI channel-based separation seems to do the trick, but I've dropped to the prev page, if you play live that's still a good question'
but im still a bit confused

Im not trying to make an arpeggiator, just send all 3 or more chord notes to different midi channels or midi fx