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1353 posts since 9 Jul, 2014 from UK

Post Sat Oct 01, 2022 1:14 pm

machinesworking wrote: Sat Oct 01, 2022 9:39 amI'm perfectly happy the "emulation" goes beyond the original.
This is what I don't get. An 'emulation' is meant to be just that, it 'emulates' the original. My take on it, is to be able to afford a software version of a hardware synth, because the hardware prices are probably out of reach of people like you and me. I'm not saying it's bad, it's just not what it says it is. But if additional features are welcomed, then fair enough.

Here's a thought - I wonder what the 1st ever 'emulation' was? Answers on a postcard.
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14314 posts since 14 Jun, 2001 from Somewhere else, on principle

Post Sat Oct 01, 2022 3:51 pm

Why does an emulation have to be nothing more than a slavish copy of the original? Why can't it be something more and better? I see no point at all in a 1:1 clone, I much prefer something that invokes the spirit of the original but goes further. OB-Xtreme, for example, emulates the voice card set-up of the OBs and it emulates the oscillator and filter set-up of the OBs. Isn't that enough to earn the description "emulation".
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KVRAF
10199 posts since 16 Aug, 2006

Post Sun Oct 02, 2022 9:29 am

ramseysounds wrote: Sat Oct 01, 2022 1:14 pm
machinesworking wrote: Sat Oct 01, 2022 9:39 amI'm perfectly happy the "emulation" goes beyond the original.
This is what I don't get. An 'emulation' is meant to be just that, it 'emulates' the original. My take on it, is to be able to afford a software version of a hardware synth, because the hardware prices are probably out of reach of people like you and me. I'm not saying it's bad, it's just not what it says it is. But if additional features are welcomed, then fair enough.

Here's a thought - I wonder what the 1st ever 'emulation' was? Answers on a postcard.
Engage in this thought experiment: what VST emulation is truly a 100% emulation of the original hardware? Which doesn't expand on the hardware in some way? First, VSTi offers patch recall, which many vintage synths didn't. Many "emulations" add FX, additional modulation options, additional controls, MPE, etc. I legitimately don't think there is a single VST emulation that doesn't go beyond the original in some way. So then ask yourself: well, where's the line then?

I'm 100% ok with a product saying "we took the classic synth as the basis for emulation, then added [insert list of features]" because literally every software we'd call an "emulation" that I can think of did that in some way shape or form.

ramseysounds
KVRian
1353 posts since 9 Jul, 2014 from UK

Post Sun Oct 02, 2022 12:40 pm

And as I said in my original post before anyone else digs me out: But if additional features are welcomed, then fair enough.
Try reading what I said before going on a diatribe :dog:
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machinesworking
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4858 posts since 15 Aug, 2003 from seattle

Post Sun Oct 02, 2022 3:47 pm

Bones and funkybot's evil twin nailed it. Emulations aren't 100% accurate anyway, so adding in things that enhance the experience in no way takes away from the emulation. Diva lets you mix and match modules, adds in all kinds of modulation and a few FX, Repro-1 has foldback distortions and FX, same with every Arturia plug in.

I'm absolutely sure you can get some realistic OB-X sounds out of OB-Xtreme, but not all sounds. Just like every other emulation of hardware out there. You can also get the sort of beefed up sounds that people would achieve in a studio with the OBX. It's $50, and frankly sounds much much better than most of the emulations out there.
ramseysounds wrote: Sat Oct 01, 2022 1:14 pm This is what I don't get. An 'emulation' is meant to be just that, it 'emulates' the original. My take on it, is to be able to afford a software version of a hardware synth, because the hardware prices are probably out of reach of people like you and me. I'm not saying it's bad, it's just not what it says it is. But if additional features are welcomed, then fair enough.]
It's exactly what is says it is, OB XTREME what's hard to figure out about that? and honestly your self serving attempt to excuse your reply from criticism is silly, you flatly ask here why the emulation goes farther then attempt to backpedal, then get frustrated people comment on the post??? I'll raise your :dog: by a :nutter:

Echoes in the Attic
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10092 posts since 12 May, 2008

Post Sun Oct 02, 2022 4:15 pm

The demos sound excellent and definitely have a very Oberheim flavor to them, but even more beefed up. May have to grab this one. I feel like I've got oberheim overload though now with Obsession, OP-X Pro, bx_oberhausen and the arturia ones. But damn does it sound good. I guess no demo yet eh? Sorry didn't follow thread.

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1329 posts since 28 Jul, 2006

Post Sun Oct 02, 2022 5:19 pm

Echoes in the Attic wrote: Sun Oct 02, 2022 4:15 pm The demos sound excellent and definitely have a very Oberheim flavor to them, but even more beefed up. May have to grab this one. I feel like I've got oberheim overload though now with Obsession, OP-X Pro, bx_oberhausen and the arturia ones. But damn does it sound good. I guess no demo yet eh? Sorry didn't follow thread.
Right now it's just pre-release version for people that were really excited about the demos. Full release comes out soon and will have extra features, I'm unsure about demo status. The ore release version sounds awesome though, and unlike my other softsynths. Modern softsynths kinda sound a bit samey to me like people are referencing the same white papers for their code. This is distinctly different IMO, but it's not something that you can use for every type of sound. It's a sweet spot synth, but when it's sweet it's REALLY sweet.

ramseysounds
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1353 posts since 9 Jul, 2014 from UK

Post Sun Oct 02, 2022 10:29 pm

machinesworking wrote: Sun Oct 02, 2022 3:47 pmyour self serving attempt to excuse your reply from criticism is silly, you flatly ask here why the emulation goes farther then attempt to backpedal, then get frustrated people comment on the post??? I'll raise your :dog: by a :nutter:
Try reading what I actually said. Now gfy
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14314 posts since 14 Jun, 2001 from Somewhere else, on principle

Post Mon Oct 03, 2022 1:22 am

I'm still waiting for my email. Excitement is definitely building.
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4858 posts since 15 Aug, 2003 from seattle

Post Mon Oct 03, 2022 7:59 am

ramseysounds wrote: Sun Oct 02, 2022 10:29 pm
machinesworking wrote: Sun Oct 02, 2022 3:47 pmyour self serving attempt to excuse your reply from criticism is silly, you flatly ask here why the emulation goes farther then attempt to backpedal, then get frustrated people comment on the post??? I'll raise your :dog: by a :nutter:
Try reading what I actually said. Now gfy
Try making a coherent argument, then people won't have any reason to reply to your scattered posts. You literally contradict yourself in the part I quoted, it's just rambling, and you're now "upset" that people reacted.

OB-Xtreme is exactly what it says it is, that you don't understand is no ones fault but yours. :nutter:

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hurricaneaudiolab
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53 posts since 15 Aug, 2018

Post Mon Oct 03, 2022 8:01 am

Wouldn't be surprised if no one has the update yet. I think he's buying himself more time with that updated delivery date range so I expect it no earlier than the 9th. I know 3 other guys who are still waiting for their email. I'm still waiting for mine. If it's delayed (again) just let us know, man.

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14314 posts since 14 Jun, 2001 from Somewhere else, on principle

Post Mon Oct 03, 2022 6:32 pm

Yeah, it's no problem at all, really. I'd rather he took his time and got it perfectly right, rather than rush it out the door to keep to a schedule. Aly is just trying to keep people happy. He takes a lot of the criticism to heart so he needs to know that we're all happy to wait until he's ready, that there is no need for anyone to stress about it.
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Aloysius
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37503 posts since 11 Aug, 2008 from clown world

Post Mon Oct 03, 2022 7:48 pm

I'm in no hurry Aly.
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sqigls
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5075 posts since 25 Dec, 2004

Post Mon Oct 03, 2022 11:11 pm

a VST version for OSX would be an instabuy. Sounds f**king brutal though, on the to buy list for sure.

Vortifex
KVRAF
2905 posts since 1 Sep, 2016

Post Mon Oct 03, 2022 11:39 pm

It still has a major bug where it sometimes crashes the DAW when saving a preset (FL Studio). I'm hoping that's fixed in the update.

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