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machinesworking wrote: Fri Oct 28, 2022 4:50 pm
Urs wrote: Fri Oct 28, 2022 11:58 am Tuesday we'll send a newsletter with the date.
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All Hallow's Day is a good day for Zebra 3.
As long as the date is in the “near” future :)
Near as in… :pray:
ABEFLGMOPPRRST :phones:

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:clap: psycox is very delighted to know a newsletter is coming...

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machinesworking wrote: Fri Oct 28, 2022 4:50 pm
Urs wrote: Fri Oct 28, 2022 11:58 am Tuesday we'll send a newsletter with the date.
:clap:
All Hallow's Day is a good day for Zebra 3.
The date is for Zebra Legacy... Zebra3 is not nearly finished...

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Urs wrote: Fri Oct 28, 2022 11:35 pm
machinesworking wrote: Fri Oct 28, 2022 4:50 pm
Urs wrote: Fri Oct 28, 2022 11:58 am Tuesday we'll send a newsletter with the date.
:clap:
All Hallow's Day is a good day for Zebra 3.
The date is for Zebra Legacy... Zebra3 is not nearly finished...
Any news on Uhbik/Filterscape Apple Silicon update? even Alpha/Beta. So I give you my money : )

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Urs wrote: Fri Oct 28, 2022 11:35 pm
machinesworking wrote: Fri Oct 28, 2022 4:50 pm
Urs wrote: Fri Oct 28, 2022 11:58 am Tuesday we'll send a newsletter with the date.
:clap:
All Hallow's Day is a good day for Zebra 3.
The date is for Zebra Legacy... Zebra3 is not nearly finished...
OK then, just going off what it says on your site.
What will happen to Zebra2 and The Dark Zebra when Zebra3 finally arrives?.
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The plan is to bundle Zebra2 and The Dark Zebra together instead of selling them as individual products, one of which builds on the other. The switch to ZEBRA LEGACY will occur on a certain cutoff date (yet to be announced). Zebra Legacy will include all our Zebra2 soundsets and will become available at a very attractive price.
This makes it sound like the announcement of Zebra 3 is to coincide with the introduction of Zebra Legacy. I can't really read it any other way.

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I see how one can read this that way. Please bear with us, we're no lawyers. We try to find formulations and terminology that leave little to no room for interpretation, but we do not always succeed.

However, at the time of releasing the statement on the website, we had planned to let the release of Zebra Legacy coincide with Zebralette3, which would be a pre-cursor to Zebra3 - and that is what that meant: The arrival of Zebra3 is a process which starts with Zebralette. Unfortunately - as I think was mentioned in this thread - things have urged me to halt that work for a few months, such that now we first release Zebra Legacy and Zebralette3 will follow a few months later.

We'll be updating our website with more current information on Tuesday, and I'll ask the guys to correct this bit.

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darkinners wrote: Sat Oct 29, 2022 8:34 am Any news on Uhbik/Filterscape Apple Silicon update? even Alpha/Beta. So I give you my money : )
Filterscape is on a good path. While it was supposed to be mainly an update of UI and content, there again I encountered a few areas that need my attention - things I simply can't let any other developer do.

As an example, I've used the Zebra3 waveform editor to create more realistic visual curves for filters and EQs. Luckily this is also work towards EQ visualization in Uhbik and Zebra3. The visuals in Uhbik-Q were showstoppers actually as they cost too much CPU. So now we have a way to create them that is pretty accurate and cost next to no CPU at all.

(As a side effect of this, Hive's script based wavetables can now use waveforms edited in Zebra3's waveform editor... some day I'll do another screencast or two... it's good stuff)

Related to this, I'm replacing the old pre-"ZDF" filters with modern variants based on analogue modelling in Filterscape. They simply have fewer artefacts when modulating them. I've developed a good workflow for this and more accurate tools than what we used to have, and that again is something that I'll need for Zebra3 as I want to transition some of the Zebra2 filters into more modern variants.

In Uhbik afaik latter work was already done, but I'll eventually have another look. Hoping for the best. I did have the alphas open recently and find them rather enjoyable. Once Filterscape is out, we'll evaluate what needs to be done and who in the team can do it. It might not be all that much work and I hope that most of it can be done by any of our devs while I focus on Z3.

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Urs wrote: Sat Oct 29, 2022 10:49 am
darkinners wrote: Sat Oct 29, 2022 8:34 am Any news on Uhbik/Filterscape Apple Silicon update? even Alpha/Beta. So I give you my money : )
Filterscape is on a good path. While it was supposed to be mainly an update of UI and content, there again I encountered a few areas that need my attention - things I simply can't let any other developer do.

As an example, I've used the Zebra3 waveform editor to create more realistic visual curves for filters and EQs. Luckily this is also work towards EQ visualization in Uhbik and Zebra3. The visuals in Uhbik-Q were showstoppers actually as they cost too much CPU. So now we have a way to create them that is pretty accurate and cost next to no CPU at all.

(As a side effect of this, Hive's script based wavetables can now use waveforms edited in Zebra3's waveform editor... some day I'll do another screencast or two... it's good stuff)

Related to this, I'm replacing the old pre-"ZDF" filters with modern variants based on analogue modelling in Filterscape. They simply have fewer artefacts when modulating them. I've developed a good workflow for this and more accurate tools than what we used to have, and that again is something that I'll need for Zebra3 as I want to transition some of the Zebra2 filters into more modern variants.

In Uhbik afaik latter work was already done, but I'll eventually have another look. Hoping for the best. I did have the alphas open recently and find them rather enjoyable. Once Filterscape is out, we'll evaluate what needs to be done and who in the team can do it. It might not be all that much work and I hope that most of it can be done by any of our devs while I focus on Z3.
Wow thank you so much for such a detailed roadmap Urs, I am very excited!

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Excited to hear you talk about your advancements in filtering! I’m always looking for a great filter plugin (currently using WOW2) even when I’m just using them as a simple lowpass, I’ve always loved those Hive filters and wish I could use them on anything, and the Diva filters too, I wish it wasn’t mono in Zebra

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as a new u-he customer, do you think Z3 will be closer to Hive than Z2? I'm wondering which to put more time into learning in order to have transferable skills when Z3 comes out

im fairly new to this and would like to invest my time wisely and focus on learning one at the moment

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Related to this, I'm replacing the old pre-"ZDF" filters with modern variants based on analogue modelling in Filterscape. They simply have fewer artefacts when modulating them. I've developed a good workflow for this and more accurate tools than what we used to have, and that again is something that I'll need for Zebra3 as I want to transition some of the Zebra2 filters into more modern variants.
Ooo! so it's not that the filters in Z3 are all going to be entirely from the ground-up. Some of them will be carried over from Zebra2 and given some "ZDF" analog mojo.

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Shiek927 wrote: Tue Nov 01, 2022 4:36 am
Related to this, I'm replacing the old pre-"ZDF" filters with modern variants based on analogue modelling in Filterscape. They simply have fewer artefacts when modulating them. I've developed a good workflow for this and more accurate tools than what we used to have, and that again is something that I'll need for Zebra3 as I want to transition some of the Zebra2 filters into more modern variants.
Ooo! so it's not that the filters in Z3 are all going to be entirely from the ground-up. Some of them will be carried over from Zebra2 and given some "ZDF" analog mojo.
That's an idea that emerged not so long ago.

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Just saw this post in vcv rack forum a little while ago when they were trying to improve their filters and looking to the u-he blog for inspiration :D

https://community.vcvrack.com/t/filter- ... hers/10932

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I was today years old when I found out that Urs has a blog :o https://urs.silvrback.com/

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- Mario

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