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kmonkey wrote: Wed Jul 24, 2024 11:15 am
iTzPrime wrote: Wed Jul 24, 2024 9:16 am
because the drag and drop solution doesn't stop the output to the master. Also I literally said I don't want them in the folder - I just want it in a basic bus.

Also sometimes i don't want them in the folder, but maybe i want them in a bus, sometimes I want to have several things that feed into each other and folders make it difficult to understand.

Yes two clicks is a bit complicated when you have around 300 tracks. With nearly all other DAWs it is just clicking on the output and selecting either a new bus or an existing one. With reaper i have to create a new bus, then alt drag them to the bus and then shift click on the route button to disable the send to master. No it is not one click on the routing matrix, especially not with many tracks.

Thanks for saying I am tripping. Very nice
You are tripping heavily man. The level of your arrogance is on the high. Let me explain why.

Now you changed terms a bit. Now it is the "I have 300 tracks" excuse which is on the edge of being ridiculous. So I am going to entertain your lazy brain a bit.

You can drag and drop to route WITHOUT having routed track to be part of a master. You just need to learn a bit. But of course, for a person being so lazy as EXACTLY you are, you always whine and want someone else to do the hard work for you.
iTzPrime wrote: Wed Jul 24, 2024 9:16 am
because the drag and drop solution doesn't stop the output to the master. Also I literally said I don't want them in the folder - I just want it in a basic bus.
1. You can route a track to another track via DRAG AND DROP without having the routed track sent to a master. You genius all you have to do is hold ALT while you are dragging and this way it will route to any other dragged track without being sent to a master. It will be sent to the dragged track only. Even the icon in the mixer is going to visually suggest that. So it is not two but ONE mouse clicks away.
iTzPrime wrote: Wed Jul 24, 2024 9:16 am
Also sometimes i don't want them in the folder, but maybe i want them in a bus, sometimes I want to have several things that feed into each other and folders make it difficult to understand.
2. You genius do you realize any track can be routed to any other track, excluding any other track you don't have to have a folder? You can do exactly what you want. It makes it difficult to understand only for your brain and that is because you don't want to learn the tool you use but you have time to argue o a forum about nonexistent features that exist.

Prime example: You can have 150 tracks. You can open the routing matrix and reroute them all in one click, all you have to do is either mouse drag and swipe down (to the routed tracks) or hold ALT while doing it and swipe your mouse down - 150 tracks routed in one mouse click.

Moreover, if the routing matrix is confusing for your brain (mind you routing matrix in Repaer visually is the same as in the audio industry), you can turn on the "wires" view and see what goes where but you being, I guess you never even knew for that but you will of course say you knew.

iTzPrime wrote: Wed Jul 24, 2024 9:16 am Yes two clicks is a bit complicated when you have around 300 tracks. With nearly all other DAWs it is just clicking on the output and selecting either a new bus or an existing one. With reaper i have to create a new bus, then alt drag them to the bus and then shift click on the route button to disable the send to master. No it is not one click on the routing matrix, especially not with many tracks.

Thanks for saying I am tripping. Very nice
See how you are tripping. Go read above. You are making it hard for yourself. You can open the matrix and route not 150, but 200 or any number of tracks in one mouse click.

Oh, I so badly want to hear a track with 300 tracks..


And now a plot twist so big that can end Europe as we know it. Did you know that you can create an action that can route any number of tracks in any way imaginable to any number of other tracks - in any way you want - with one keystroke? No, you did not know that.

If you want to pay me money I can make it for you. But I know your answer.

Bla bla, I can't do this, that...
Why can't you answer without insulting me? I am merely frustrated by a program, why do you directly attack me?

If I use alt to drag one track onto another, it creates a folder. I don't want the folder. If I alt-drag onto the route button, i also need to click shift+click to disable the send to the master. Maybe I am missing a setting?

The problem with the matrix routing is that i only want specific tracks, so I would need to go through each one. The drag approach is nice, but if the tracks are not near each other it is not possible. You also can't select several tracks at once in the routing matrix. Maybe I am missing a setting to?.

A DAW can be used more than to create songs, the amount of tracks is for video games or films, the last one was a lot bigger than 300.

I did know that you can create actions, but I wasn't able to modify them so that I can easily choose the tracks to sent to. I am just learning Reaper, why are you always so aggressive? Furthermore do you really think I will pay you after you insulted me, assumed my tracks are terrible based on track count and then continued to insult me?

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Amberience wrote: Thu Jul 18, 2024 7:35 pm
bungle wrote: Thu Jul 18, 2024 6:08 pm
Amberience wrote: Fri Jul 05, 2024 2:31 pm But the barebones mixing and automation experience in Reaper is pretty poor compared to some other DAW's.
My experience is the reverse, I write mostly stuff elsewhere because I find them more intuitive in the writing process, using built in instruments etc, but then most stuff gets popped in to Reaper for mixing, the mixing is second to none and the automation is second to none, it is actually the benchmark for all other software, very few can match its Automation Item implementation.
Well, I completely disagree. But this is a subjective thing I suppose.
Not really, there is nothing subjective about the Automation Item implementation, it is the one thing that I bomb test inside out in every DAW, it is extremely important to me, one of my most important features, because of some of the work I do, if there is a DAW that has a subjectively better Automation Item implementation and I have missed it, please tell me so that I can go test and may even switch to it, I have zero loyalty to any set up.
Duh

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bungle wrote: Thu Jul 25, 2024 8:58 amif there is a DAW that has a subjectively better Automation Item implementation and I have missed it, please tell me so that I can go test and may even switch to it, I have zero loyalty to any set up.
subjectively better to who?
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kmonkey wrote: Wed Jul 24, 2024 11:15 am
You can route a track to another track via DRAG AND DROP without having the routed track sent to a master. You genius all you have to do is hold ALT while you are dragging and this way it will route to any other dragged track without being sent to a master.
Nice one man, I didn't know this tip! :D

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bungle wrote: Thu Jul 25, 2024 8:58 am
Amberience wrote: Thu Jul 18, 2024 7:35 pm
bungle wrote: Thu Jul 18, 2024 6:08 pm
Amberience wrote: Fri Jul 05, 2024 2:31 pm But the barebones mixing and automation experience in Reaper is pretty poor compared to some other DAW's.
My experience is the reverse, I write mostly stuff elsewhere because I find them more intuitive in the writing process, using built in instruments etc, but then most stuff gets popped in to Reaper for mixing, the mixing is second to none and the automation is second to none, it is actually the benchmark for all other software, very few can match its Automation Item implementation.
Well, I completely disagree. But this is a subjective thing I suppose.
Not really, there is nothing subjective about the Automation Item implementation, it is the one thing that I bomb test inside out in every DAW, it is extremely important to me, one of my most important features, because of some of the work I do, if there is a DAW that has a subjectively better Automation Item implementation and I have missed it, please tell me so that I can go test and may even switch to it, I have zero loyalty to any set up.
I prefer the presentation and workflow of automation in Cubase and Bitwig Studio to Reaper. Even Studio One I prefer. Visualising the data is much much clearer to me. I made no claims specifically about "automation item implementation".

Hence, subjective.
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Customizable, yep.. but from all I read Reaper is flawed as f**k
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Amberience wrote: Thu Jul 25, 2024 11:48 am
bungle wrote: Thu Jul 25, 2024 8:58 am
Amberience wrote: Thu Jul 18, 2024 7:35 pm
bungle wrote: Thu Jul 18, 2024 6:08 pm
Amberience wrote: Fri Jul 05, 2024 2:31 pm But the barebones mixing and automation experience in Reaper is pretty poor compared to some other DAW's.
My experience is the reverse, I write mostly stuff elsewhere because I find them more intuitive in the writing process, using built in instruments etc, but then most stuff gets popped in to Reaper for mixing, the mixing is second to none and the automation is second to none, it is actually the benchmark for all other software, very few can match its Automation Item implementation.
Well, I completely disagree. But this is a subjective thing I suppose.
Not really, there is nothing subjective about the Automation Item implementation, it is the one thing that I bomb test inside out in every DAW, it is extremely important to me, one of my most important features, because of some of the work I do, if there is a DAW that has a subjectively better Automation Item implementation and I have missed it, please tell me so that I can go test and may even switch to it, I have zero loyalty to any set up.
I prefer the presentation and workflow of automation in Cubase and Bitwig Studio to Reaper. Even Studio One I prefer. Visualising the data is much much clearer to me. I made no claims specifically about "automation item implementation".

Hence, subjective.
Well that is weird, because you replied to my post where I mention the Automation Item implementation, oh well Reaper threads.
Duh

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bungle wrote: Mon Jul 29, 2024 4:27 pm
Amberience wrote: Thu Jul 25, 2024 11:48 am
bungle wrote: Thu Jul 25, 2024 8:58 am
Amberience wrote: Thu Jul 18, 2024 7:35 pm
bungle wrote: Thu Jul 18, 2024 6:08 pm
Amberience wrote: Fri Jul 05, 2024 2:31 pm But the barebones mixing and automation experience in Reaper is pretty poor compared to some other DAW's.
My experience is the reverse, I write mostly stuff elsewhere because I find them more intuitive in the writing process, using built in instruments etc, but then most stuff gets popped in to Reaper for mixing, the mixing is second to none and the automation is second to none, it is actually the benchmark for all other software, very few can match its Automation Item implementation.
Well, I completely disagree. But this is a subjective thing I suppose.
Not really, there is nothing subjective about the Automation Item implementation, it is the one thing that I bomb test inside out in every DAW, it is extremely important to me, one of my most important features, because of some of the work I do, if there is a DAW that has a subjectively better Automation Item implementation and I have missed it, please tell me so that I can go test and may even switch to it, I have zero loyalty to any set up.
I prefer the presentation and workflow of automation in Cubase and Bitwig Studio to Reaper. Even Studio One I prefer. Visualising the data is much much clearer to me. I made no claims specifically about "automation item implementation".

Hence, subjective.
Well that is weird, because you replied to my post where I mention the Automation Item implementation, oh well Reaper threads.
I'm afraid that isn't true:
viewtopic.php?p=8931000#p8931000

I posted my own opinions here. You then picked up on it later, and chose to take issue with it. My original general statement was never an argument against your specific appreciation of a specific way of working.

So yes, that is weird I guess. As you say, Reaper threads.
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Windows wrote: Fri Jul 05, 2024 10:16 am
whyterabbyt wrote: Fri Jul 05, 2024 10:08 am
Dwomoh wrote: Fri Jul 05, 2024 10:02 am
Amberience wrote: Fri Jul 05, 2024 8:41 am The inserts/effects window is pretty crap to use, and there isn't a single theme out there that rivals Cubase; particularly the mixer. You can't customize enough of the mixer to make it enjoyable to use.
If you love Cubase Mixer that much, there is a Cubase Theme for Reaper out there that looks exactly like Cubase.
Does it behave and function exactly like Cubase? If not, you missed his point.
So?
So today you decided to edit this post from over a year ago, which is just... weird.
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