VPS Avenger 2.3 [RELEASED - FAQ in OP]

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currently not. We thought about this for the distant future

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hey212 wrote: Wed Dec 04, 2024 7:19 am If you jump to 4:55 in this video, they talk about how the UI designer went beyond what they originally asked for, and just presented them with a blank slate redesign of the interface, which was a lot more work to implement but seems to have been worth it.

I hope they'll allow that designer to revisit the Avenger 2 UI with the eyes of a UI professional as well, because despite being an amazing synth, the UI is quite clunky and old fashioned in general.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-MxUkfe_9I
For actual use and workflow, I think the avenger UI is pretty fkn amazing. Levels above nexus in that regard.

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Interesting, it's good to know some people like it. Personally I find the amount of control that is hidden behind tabs, and the number of different areas of the layout that contains tabs, and the fact that you seem to have to turn a component on or off in multiple different places to actually turn it on or off, to be pretty clunky and unintuitive. There are too many competing layers of abstraction.

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hey212 wrote: Wed Dec 04, 2024 1:51 pm Interesting, it's good to know some people like it. Personally I find the amount of control that is hidden behind tabs, and the number of different areas of the layout that contains tabs, and the fact that you seem to have to turn a component on or off in multiple different places to actually turn it on or off, to be pretty clunky and unintuitive. There are too many competing layers of abstraction.
Haha, I'd say the absolute same thing about Nexus! Good thing there are so many options out there.

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m-ac wrote: Wed Dec 04, 2024 12:55 pm
hey212 wrote: Wed Dec 04, 2024 7:19 am If you jump to 4:55 in this video, they talk about how the UI designer went beyond what they originally asked for, and just presented them with a blank slate redesign of the interface, which was a lot more work to implement but seems to have been worth it.

I hope they'll allow that designer to revisit the Avenger 2 UI with the eyes of a UI professional as well, because despite being an amazing synth, the UI is quite clunky and old fashioned in general.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-MxUkfe_9I
For actual use and workflow, I think the avenger UI is pretty fkn amazing. Levels above nexus in that regard.
I agree. I think it's one of the most useful synth UIs, especially for such a complex synth.
A UI that is easy to understand, not unnecessarily full of clutter that overwhelms the eye, and gives you quick access to as many features as possible is all I really ask for. In that regard, Avenger, Phase Plant and to a slightly lesser extent Current are the ones that click for me.

My one criticism all this time has been that I wish it were possible to minimize the browser and use that space for something else. But given all the things they get right, it's a pretty minor concern.

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Teksonik wrote: Tue Dec 03, 2024 3:50 pm Does anyone know if there is a written list of samples that are contained in an Avenger expansion?
Since there's nothing available, I thought I'd make a quick silent video quickly clicking through the factory samples in the browser. Better than nothing, hopefully.

https://youtu.be/4IIWd3PuJLY
http://www.guyrowland.co.uk
http://www.sound-on-screen.com
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https://youtu.be/Or9pHaAK1gs

Welcome to the next chapter of our Trance collection: approaching to planet earth is "Trance Four", delivering the finest, most sophisticated sounds for today’s modern Trance scene. The legendary duo of Manuel Schleis and Alan Morris have teamed up once again, bringing their expert craftsmanship to this expansion, showcasing their mastery in the genre. With uplifting leads, euphoric pads, beautifully composed arps, cutting basslines, and a host of fresh vocal phrases that sync to your tempo and adapt to your pitch, Trance Four offers a truly immersive experience. And that’s just the beginning - this expansion is packed with so much content, it could easily be considered two expansions in one. If you’re passionate about Trance music, this is a gem you won’t want to miss. Dive in and elevate your sound to new heights!


Attention: VPS Avenger version 2.3 minimum required!

this expansion adds to your library:

141 Avenger presets 23 new drumkits/sequences
50 new multisamples 2 new multiloops
22 new shapes 40 new granular samples
7 new wavetables 132 new arp patterns

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Good Lord how do you crank out so many awesome sounds man

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How do I remove Avenger from my Mac completely? I've deleted the audio library system component plugin, and VST3, removed application support stuff, and searched my hard drive for anything Vengeance or VPS or Avenger, and it's all gone. And I've still got it showing in my Audio Units in Ableton Live after refresh. Is there a hidden one somewhere?

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This synth sounds good... Such a shame it isn't optimised for Mac :-(.

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Jac459 wrote: Fri Dec 06, 2024 7:13 am This synth sounds good... Such a shame it isn't optimised for Mac :-(.
I'm sorry you're having problems with Avenger too now, but can you now see how frustrating it is when others are saying they run multiple instances of avenger without any issues at all, yet some of us can't even run a single instance?! Vengeance need to put more resources into this issue, its pretty ridiculous.

I don't even mind it using more CPU on mac, but these 100% CPU spikes when NOTHING is being played....come on. It doesn't happen with a single other synth or plug, of which I'm into the hundreds.

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m-ac wrote: Fri Dec 06, 2024 8:08 am
Jac459 wrote: Fri Dec 06, 2024 7:13 am This synth sounds good... Such a shame it isn't optimised for Mac :-(.
I'm sorry you're having problems with Avenger too now, but can you now see how frustrating it is when others are saying they run multiple instances of avenger without any issues at all, yet some of us can't even run a single instance?! Vengeance need to put more resources into this issue, its pretty ridiculous.

I don't even mind it using more CPU on mac, but these 100% CPU spikes when NOTHING is being played....come on. It doesn't happen with a single other synth or plug, of which I'm into the hundreds.
Yes I agree and I was wrong to think that it doesn't have a practical impact.

With new presets packs becoming more power hungry, it is becoming worse and worse.

The trouble is that problem adds up. Vengeance has this choice to have presets packs that are almost like a full song. It is fun but I am in fact using only one sound of a whole complex presets. So I just solo it because it is a chore to delete all the parts I don't need.
And then I end up with a complex preset for nothing and then my Mac can't run it because even with an M2 Pro I can only run less than 6 avenger instances of a complex preset...


A shame because this synth really sounds awesome.

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first i wasnt interested in the new XP but then some nice 90s styled presets popped up!

im wondering reading so many MAC users having issues, sorry mates, is Vengeance not interested fixing this?
cause i read that for avery long time now, cannot believe it is only a handful of people having probs....
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Demo of Trance XP sounds awesome

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