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I apologize for mentioning another feature that's probably missing in Bitwig Studio (but is extremely useful) to make my point. But:

If you could move items/waveforms at sample-level accuracy, and you could also superimpose two tracks on top of each other, you'd be able to do the following:

When you're phase-aligning two guitar tracks, you'd be able to go beyond aligning only their transients, you'd be able to phase-align the bodies of the two waveforms much more accurately. Sometimes they will phase-align so well that it almost looks like they are one waveform (like this example below), And then you'd know you've phase-aligned them as perfectly as possible.

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The highest correlation between the two waveforms is achieved. This way you can quickly judge where the transients are in relationship to each other and then how phase-aligned the main bodies of the waveforms are in relationship to each other, how correlated they are if you will. And then obviously you need to audition the change.

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Call me crazy, but I think being able to move waveforms/items one sample at a time, is the most basic functionality of a DAW.

Also being able to superimpose two tracks on top of each other and do the above-mentioned trick is pretty sweet if you ask me.

Don't knock it, until you've tried it.

Here you can hear the dramatic effect nudging one of the tracks only a few samples can have. It also shows the superimposing trick I mentioned above:


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limitlesssss wrote: Tue Sep 16, 2025 8:32 pm Can you nudge/edit items in Bitwig Studio 6 at sample-level accuracy?
Please don't post the same question in multiple threads. Now we have two ongoing discussions:

viewtopic.php?t=623752

(and I could have saved the time to answer you there since tumface has done it here much better, but I hadn't seen this yet) :)

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Apologies. I first asked the question in that new thread, but then realized maybe it was better to ask it in Bitwig 6 thread. Sorry.

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tumface wrote: Mon Sep 15, 2025 5:56 am
_leras wrote: Mon Sep 15, 2025 5:07 am (And not everyone has been to jazz school and had to learn to play everything in all twelve scales...)
So I just tried playing with Bitwig's key/scale system again, and it suffers from the same problems that Live's does.

With Bitwig's system, if I set the the key to Eb major, then playing a C on my keyboard still plays a C note. And B also plays a C note. I can't get a Eb major scale by just playing the white keys.
I think it's a slightly different thing tbh. What you're after is transpose and you can drop that in anywhere with the note transpose util.

I guess that's useful to a point, but when I've done that in the past to try and transpose the digital piano and play something in a key I could sing, but couldn't play too well on the piano, I found that it threw me out too much as I wasn't hearing what my hands were playing.

But that is, I think, different from transposing when writing and composing something.

I like that I can put perhaps random notes in the arpegiator, or the piano roll, and they'll be munged into a proper scale and key, or that I can transpose something and have it move up modes in key, and not just be chromatic. It should lead to some interesting music.

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tumface wrote: Wed Sep 17, 2025 4:19 am Why do you need to know what they need it for? This is a feature other DAWs have, and there's no need to play gatekeeper. (Sorry if I'm misunderstanding why you're asking.)
Well, before accusing me of (potential) gatekeeping at least wait for some evidence....

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limitlesssss wrote: Wed Sep 17, 2025 7:26 am I apologize for mentioning another feature that's probably missing in Bitwig Studio (but is extremely useful) to make my point. But:

If you could move items/waveforms at sample-level accuracy, and you could also superimpose two tracks on top of each other, you'd be able to do the following:

When you're phase-aligning two guitar tracks, you'd be able to go beyond aligning only their transients, you'd be able to phase-align the bodies of the two waveforms much more accurately. Sometimes they will phase-align so well that it almost looks like they are one waveform (like this example below), And then you'd know you've phase-aligned them as perfectly as possible.

Image

The highest correlation between the two waveforms is achieved. This way you can quickly judge where the transients are in relationship to each other and then how phase-aligned the main bodies of the waveforms are in relationship to each other, how correlated they are if you will. And then obviously you need to audition the change.

Image

Call me crazy, but I think being able to move waveforms/items one sample at a time, is the most basic functionality of a DAW.

Also being able to superimpose two tracks on top of each other and do the above-mentioned trick is pretty sweet if you ask me.

Don't knock it, until you've tried it.

Here you can hear the dramatic effect nudging one of the tracks only a few samples can have. It also shows the superimposing trick I mentioned above:

Ah I see. Thanks for clarifying.

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why is bitwig so against ARA and a built in tuner. they want us to be out of tune

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rchrd wrote: Wed Sep 17, 2025 2:01 pm why is bitwig so against ARA and a built in tuner. they want us to be out of tune
For that more analog and organic sound....

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stamp wrote: Wed Sep 17, 2025 2:32 pm
rchrd wrote: Wed Sep 17, 2025 2:01 pm why is bitwig so against ARA and a built in tuner. they want us to be out of tune
For that more analog and organic sound....
AFAIK, ARA is built for DAWs with tape-like, continuous tracks, while Bitwig’s event-driven, non-linear engine doesn’t fit that model — making direct ARA support technically challenging, FL Studio has the same issue with the integratoin
"Where we're workarounding, we don't NEED features." - powermat

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xbitz wrote: Wed Sep 17, 2025 3:08 pm
stamp wrote: Wed Sep 17, 2025 2:32 pm
rchrd wrote: Wed Sep 17, 2025 2:01 pm why is bitwig so against ARA and a built in tuner. they want us to be out of tune
For that more analog and organic sound....
AFAIK, ARA is built for DAWs with tape-like, continuous tracks, while Bitwig’s event-driven, non-linear engine doesn’t fit that model — making direct ARA support technically challenging, FL Studio has the same issue with the integratoin
Are you implying that I'm wrong?

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Everybody is wrong, except me.

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coroknight wrote: Wed Sep 17, 2025 10:41 pm Everybody is wrong, except me.
:hihi:

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ARA is just a marketing trick til I've seen studies regarded to significant latency improvement. Terms like 'plugins communicate better' you can pave the road to hell with them

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I’d honestly rather see CLAP get more features.

If ARA still has trouble integrating with non-linear DAWs after all these years then whoever is managing that standard isn’t doing a good job.

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Just tried the 6 beta, still no way to have clips launch once the previous clip reaches the end. :(

I've requested this simple but powerful addition a number of times now, over the course of many years. Would be relatively easy to add, with its benefits far outweighing the resources needed to implement. Don't understand it.
Yo Leroy!

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