GForce Sequential Prophet-5
- KVRAF
- 20736 posts since 22 Nov, 2000 from Southern California
To compare with Acustica, you'd need to add some kind of stereoizer to simulate the one in Expanse-5. The real Prophet-5 Rev 4 has a single mono output.
- KVRAF
- 20736 posts since 22 Nov, 2000 from Southern California
You can do inverted envelopes on every single parameter using the XMOD and there's a highpass filter in the effects section, which can also be modulated with the XMOD envelope.Buka wrote: Tue Jun 16, 2026 8:21 pm Inverted filter envelope and highpass filter like on Pro-53 would be great![]()
- KVRist
- 184 posts since 26 Aug, 2025
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- KVRAF
- 4073 posts since 22 Aug, 2012
A quick workaround would be to copy layer A>B and hard pan each left and right — if both layers have vintage drift the result is delicious.Uncle E wrote: Tue Jun 16, 2026 8:21 pm To compare with Acustica, you'd need to add some kind of stereoizer to simulate the one in Expanse-5. The real Prophet-5 Rev 4 has a single mono output.
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Echoes in the Attic Echoes in the Attic https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=180417
- KVRAF
- 12025 posts since 12 May, 2008
High pass filter in the effects section is not per voice though right? How does xmod envelope work when not per voice given that’s triggered by note on? Always last note played?Uncle E wrote: Tue Jun 16, 2026 8:24 pmYou can do inverted envelopes on every single parameter using the XMOD and there's a highpass filter in the effects section, which can also be modulated with the XMOD envelope.Buka wrote: Tue Jun 16, 2026 8:21 pm Inverted filter envelope and highpass filter like on Pro-53 would be great![]()
- KVRAF
- 20736 posts since 22 Nov, 2000 from Southern California
Correct. It works like a paraphonic filter in that case.Echoes in the Attic wrote: Tue Jun 16, 2026 8:38 pm High pass filter in the effects section is not per voice though right? How does xmod envelope work when not per voice given that’s triggered by note on? Always last note played?
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- KVRian
- 880 posts since 9 May, 2005
Now *that* is the ultimate solution.
You make very solid points.
I actually wish my ears preferred the software.
Far more practical.
I've got a handful of hardware instruments that stay put (don't get used live)... and it's getting harder to justify adding more.
Though it's not high-priority, I'd like to have another Prophet 10.
That and the MiniMoog are probably my two favorite analog synths.
Both super simple... and beautiful sounding within their confines.
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- KVRer
- 9 posts since 10 May, 2026
Don't you all agree that you don't get that certain hardware DAC or actual analog feeling from the Prophet in digital? I always check the Youtube and almost none of that classic hardware sound seems audible in the examples so people might not know. It's alot more expensive to go all hardware so I know even I tend to way prefer software based stuff. For more than just cheapness. GForce is real fun.
- KVRian
- 545 posts since 22 May, 2009 from Portugal,Azores (faial island)
anyone knows were is the UI images located?
...want to know how to program great synth sounds,check my video tutorials: http://www.youtube.com/user/sergiofrias25
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- KVRer
- 9 posts since 10 May, 2026
The only thing missing from most modern synths that I want the most is really good random permutation % tools for each field, osc, filter, env, etc. & also full microtonal scala support. A handful of synths have these features but they go a long way and lot's of synths are missing the 2 key extra features.
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- KVRAF
- 1892 posts since 8 Jan, 2022
You can run an S&H on the random waveform with the X-mod LFO on almost every parameter. You can have it per key press or free running.Phlangeez wrote: Wed Jun 17, 2026 12:26 am The only thing missing from most modern synths that I want the most is really good random permutation % tools for each field, osc, filter, env, etc. & also full microtonal scala support. A handful of synths have these features but they go a long way and lot's of synths are missing the 2 key extra features.
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- KVRAF
- 2822 posts since 24 Nov, 2023
The Prophet 5? How could it? The audio path from the oscillators to the filters and the final amplifier is 100% pure analog there is no DAC to getPhlangeez wrote: Wed Jun 17, 2026 12:06 am Don't you all agree that you don't get that certain hardware DAC
As one of the first Synths to ever have microprocessor control for programable presets there were a few DACs that converted digital signals to control voltages, but you would hear that in a plugin
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Funkybot's Evil Twin Funkybot's Evil Twin https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=116627
- KVRAF
- 12447 posts since 16 Aug, 2006
From your lips to GForce's ears my friend!abernathy wrote: Tue Jun 16, 2026 8:18 pmI find the GUI difficult to look at - too contrasty, and why the choice of hard lighting from an extreme angle? Just ugly and harsh looking to me. I wish there was a Gamma setting or something. Didn't GForce modify a recent synth after complaints about contrast? The Prophet 5 is such a simple elegant design and they didn't capture that IMO. Funkybot, I wish we could skin this one too! Well, maybe not. Ugh.Funkybot's Evil Twin wrote: Tue Jun 16, 2026 11:55 am 2. The GUI is a busy, cluttered mess where tiny fonts and poor contrast abound.
I'm comparing this sound wise to Acustica Expanse-5 and I'm wondering if the Expanse-5 is an idealized version of the Prophet 5. It sounds "better" to me - richer and more hardware-like on the same OG Factory Presets, but maybe not as accurate as this new Prophet 5? My OCD is kicking in! Ha.
I spent another few minutes with it after work and a whole bunch of other stuff stuck out at me. Like how cramped and slapped together the modwheel panel/section is, or how the Velocity and Aftertouch controls stick out like sore thumbs, or the weird lock icon in one the headers. And the Prophet back panel is not that shiny and reflective.
I know someone worked hard on that GUI, but I really think this one needed a different approach with everything they were trying to do. I think a "Prophet Desktop" form factor, with tabs might've been a better approach.
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- KVRer
- 9 posts since 10 May, 2026
Oh I actually tried to indicate in my reply that certain hardware DAC "or actual analog sound". Even old vintage DAC's often increase quality in theory. I like what DAC emulation can offer plugins even as low as around 9 bits 11 kHz. It's texturally more interesting on some sounds. It doesn't "Decimate".IvyBirds wrote: Wed Jun 17, 2026 1:28 amThe Prophet 5? How could it? The audio path from the oscillators to the filters and the final amplifier is 100% pure analog there is no DAC to getPhlangeez wrote: Wed Jun 17, 2026 12:06 am Don't you all agree that you don't get that certain hardware DAC
As one of the first Synths to ever have microprocessor control for programable presets there were a few DACs that converted digital signals to control voltages, but you would hear that in a plugin
