Tokyo Dawn Labs - Sibilance Controller - sneak peak
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- KVRist
- 360 posts since 25 May, 2011
Looking forward to it.
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- KVRist
- 459 posts since 31 Dec, 2010 from Perth
Me too, can't wait !twoifbysea wrote:Looking forward to it.
I guess you have to get the GE of FB Comp II out of the way first.
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- KVRist
- 443 posts since 16 Aug, 2010
Looks promising.
The best de-essor that I have is opto de-esser on my Focusrite. It works very transparent.
It flips phase on selected freq. Very transparent.
Maybe this one will replace hardware that I use. Looking forward to it.
Thanks
The best de-essor that I have is opto de-esser on my Focusrite. It works very transparent.
It flips phase on selected freq. Very transparent.
Maybe this one will replace hardware that I use. Looking forward to it.
Thanks
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- KVRer
- 6 posts since 25 Jun, 2013 from Europe
Is there anything you can do to make this new plugin handle "polyphonic input" better than, say the FabFilter? Or that won't be your main focus with this?FabienTDR wrote:The plug-in is definitely not designed to process specific elements of full mixes, in fact, the algorithm expects a monophonic signal to work best. However, it can still precisely control the amount of sibilance of a complex signal. But it will equally "attack" other signal-parts that look similar to vocal sibilance. High frequency drums most notably or sustained cymbals. But from my experiments, competitors have similar "polyphonc input" problems too (Fabfilter, Eliosis, ect).
I'm just asking because I have the Pro-DS and it's not uncommon for me to use it in full mixes. From time to time comes a mix that requires de-essing and even though there's always a downside to this type of processing, as you mention, the outcome is usually better than doing nothing to it. But any improvements in this area would be great!
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 1169 posts since 24 Feb, 2012
bendermasteringstudio, this is a very good question. And to be honest, it's also one of the reasons the Sibilance Processor isn't out yet (beside other conceptional problems).
The task is extremely challenging. The current algorithm works properly on monophonic content, but polyphonic signals are much more complicated to handle.
I will attack the problem as soon the FB Comp II GE is out.
The task is extremely challenging. The current algorithm works properly on monophonic content, but polyphonic signals are much more complicated to handle.
I will attack the problem as soon the FB Comp II GE is out.
Fabien from Tokyo Dawn Records
Check out my audio processors over at the Tokyo Dawn Labs!
Check out my audio processors over at the Tokyo Dawn Labs!
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- KVRer
- 23 posts since 18 Jun, 2013
Here is a free, level-independent sibilance processor that was released in May of 2013:
http://sleepytimedsp.com/software/lisp
Fabien, does it achieve the goals you have in mind?
http://sleepytimedsp.com/software/lisp
Fabien, does it achieve the goals you have in mind?
- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 1169 posts since 24 Feb, 2012
No, I don't think so.
It looks like an implementation of DBX's de-esser patent, but I never tested this plug-in and definitely won't comment competitors in public!
The TDR de-esser is level independent, too, but also uses advanced noise/signal detection techniques, super high quality filters and enough internal bandwidth to do the job without adding ugly aliases (I have no idea how to dynamically control such high frequency content without high oversampling).
But the De-esser is on hold, I will most probably release another plug-in before this one. Most of all because I'm still working on an idea.
It looks like an implementation of DBX's de-esser patent, but I never tested this plug-in and definitely won't comment competitors in public!
The TDR de-esser is level independent, too, but also uses advanced noise/signal detection techniques, super high quality filters and enough internal bandwidth to do the job without adding ugly aliases (I have no idea how to dynamically control such high frequency content without high oversampling).
But the De-esser is on hold, I will most probably release another plug-in before this one. Most of all because I'm still working on an idea.
Fabien from Tokyo Dawn Records
Check out my audio processors over at the Tokyo Dawn Labs!
Check out my audio processors over at the Tokyo Dawn Labs!
- KVRist
- 104 posts since 23 Apr, 2012
The main thing I've always disliked about using software de-essers is that even when set up to do absolutely nothing they sound darker than the original source when engaged, I tested plug ins from waves, izotope, TB, Fab-Filter and they all seem to alter the sound in a way that sounds like the high end lost a couple of db's even when they aren't compressing anything so I de-ess by vocals by hand which takes a long time but I prefer how it sounds ...
A plug in that manages to keep the high end intact while just compressing the bright part of the ess sound would be very cool ... just throwing some thoughts around.
A plug in that manages to keep the high end intact while just compressing the bright part of the ess sound would be very cool ... just throwing some thoughts around.
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- KVRAF
- 1619 posts since 30 May, 2003 from Milan, Italy
Have you tried the freeware DigitalFishPhones Spitfish? It can be pretty transparent, especially if set up within an M/S matrix.
- KVRist
- 260 posts since 30 Sep, 2007 from Roma
Hi Fabien,
News for this beast?
Cheers,
Mauro.
News for this beast?
Cheers,
Mauro.
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