Why would the kick drum be stereo to begin with? And if so, like from a drum machine, why not send it through one of those stereo2mono converters first? I use that for bass as well and get the impression that it helps.DuX wrote:It makes a lot of sense because in Reaper you can then send those separate mono channels wherever you want, pan them however you want etc. You think in stereo terms too much.Tricky-Loops wrote:What sense does this make, do you want to hardpan kick & snare? While I could imagine this for guitars, I wouldn't use it for kick & snare...Tell me, have you ever seen a recording engineer recording kick drum and snare with stereo mics? I haven't.
Anyway, my point is that using one instance of compressor with separate settings for left and right channel [like OverTone FC70 for instance] spares you some CPU cycles and some time changing between the instances of the compressor.
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Thanks, I skipped everything before the step-by-step instruction. The instruction is really helpful, thoughTricky-Loops wrote:Do schaugst:fluffy_little_something wrote:I never really knew how to set compressor parameters.![]()
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I still don't understand what you're doing...DuX wrote:It makes a lot of sense because in Reaper you can then send those separate mono channels wherever you want, pan them however you want etc. or just mono-ise the whole track so they stay in the centre. You think in stereo terms too much.Tricky-Loops wrote:What sense does this make, do you want to hardpan kick & snare? While I could imagine this for guitars, I wouldn't use it for kick & snare...Tell me, have you ever seen a recording engineer recording kick and snare drums with separate stereo mics? I haven't.
Anyway, my point is that using one instance of compressor with separate settings for left and right channel [like OverTone FC70 for instance] spares you some CPU cycles and some time changing between the instances of the compressor.
If I have a kick in MONO and a snare in MONO, too, why do I need to put one of them on the left and the other on the right channel?
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- 3846 posts since 15 Mar, 2002 from Underworld
Oh yeah, fluffy, it's just easier to mix and sounds better to at least have bass and kick in mono all the way. 
@Tricky: Because that's how it can be done in Reaper if you want to compress them separately and most of the time you want to compress/process them separately. One of the ways. That kind of powerful routing also makes sidechaining a piece of cake. However, it does take time to get used to this kind of routing. You can have as many channels per track as you want so you can load some drum machine on the track and process its separate outputs through different plugins all on one track! That is if you choose to do it that way. You can also send all the separate outputs from this drum machine to other tracks and process them with plugins there if you want to... anyway, the point being in Reaper there is [kinda] no left and right, just two separate mono channels and as many as you want. At least that's how I see it, in old school console user way.
[all channels on the analog console are usually mono to stereo and compressors and EQs are mono, even some AUX sends are mono and usually only 2 stereo]
Sorry for a bit of OT guys!
I tried the TB Reverb and I didn't really like it on everything. It's more of what I call "FX reverb" to use it here or there for something. ValhallaRoom is quite a different beast.
@Tricky: Because that's how it can be done in Reaper if you want to compress them separately and most of the time you want to compress/process them separately. One of the ways. That kind of powerful routing also makes sidechaining a piece of cake. However, it does take time to get used to this kind of routing. You can have as many channels per track as you want so you can load some drum machine on the track and process its separate outputs through different plugins all on one track! That is if you choose to do it that way. You can also send all the separate outputs from this drum machine to other tracks and process them with plugins there if you want to... anyway, the point being in Reaper there is [kinda] no left and right, just two separate mono channels and as many as you want. At least that's how I see it, in old school console user way.
Sorry for a bit of OT guys!
I tried the TB Reverb and I didn't really like it on everything. It's more of what I call "FX reverb" to use it here or there for something. ValhallaRoom is quite a different beast.
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I tend to agree, but recently I was playing with TB Reverb and tried the "Snare Room" preset on a send from a snare track that was a little lifeless. Instant joy!DuX wrote:I tried the TB Reverb and I didn't really like it on everything. It's more of what I call "FX reverb" to use it here or there for something. ValhallaRoom is quite a different beast.
Kudos to Dr. Breebaart for his fantastic work, made available to us at insanely low cost.
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Breebaart = BRAVE HEART !
I agreed with the above wholeheartedly...
THANKS JEROEN
I agreed with the above wholeheartedly...
THANKS JEROEN
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Not OT at all. It's part of the pack. And it's often overlooked. Yes, it's deffo an FX reverb, but I found at small amounts it was doing a similar job to ones like Tila. And I know you are a big fan of his plugins. Might have just been my imagination. Still, it was a nice sounding reverb for the job at hand. I'm sure Jeroen could go to town if he wanted to, but we might not hear from him for the next ten years...DuX wrote:
Sorry for a bit of OT guys!
I tried the TB Reverb and I didn't really like it on everything. It's more of what I call "FX reverb" to use it here or there for something. ValhallaRoom is quite a different beast.
Which leads on to my next point. You have got to be a special kind of bod to meddle with Reverb. All DSP gurus are mad buggers anyway, but Reverb Bods are the maddest of the lot. Beards, are the least of their worries.Eddie TX wrote:I tend to agree, but recently I was playing with TB Reverb and tried the "Snare Room" preset on a send from a snare track that was a little lifeless. Instant joy!DuX wrote:I tried the TB Reverb and I didn't really like it on everything. It's more of what I call "FX reverb" to use it here or there for something. ValhallaRoom is quite a different beast.![]()
Kudos to Dr. Breebaart for his fantastic work, made available to us at insanely low cost.
Cheers,
Eddie
But I bet if anyone could do a killer Reverb it would be Jeroen. But it might take some time. In the meantime we have Sean leading the field. Quality and price wise, and Quintosardo trailing a very close second. In fact, some people feel Verbtone is better quality wise, albeit more limited, but yet cheaper to buy. I would still prefer the beautiful interface and flexibility of a Valhalla plug though.
Ohh look at me going off topic. My apologies DuX.
Btw, does anyone remember the first VST reverb plugs that came with cubase?
Now, that was class! I'll bet that no one admits to coding that.
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codec_spurt wrote: Btw, does anyone remember the first VST reverb plugs that came with cubase?
Now, that was class! I'll bet that no one admits to coding that.
I didn't say TB Reverb is bad. It sounds VERY interesting and "polished" [?!] on some stuff. I liked gated reverb drums, for instance. Just choose some nice, huge preset and put good old Kjaerhus GAG-1 after it. Instant 80s.
Oh yeah, I really like Signaldust plugins. They are a must have IMHO. That guy is cooking something for us right now, I'm sure.
Note to self: good for industrial soundscapes, too.
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Yup, that room reverb is something else.DuX wrote:codec_spurt wrote: Btw, does anyone remember the first VST reverb plugs that came with cubase?
Now, that was class! I'll bet that no one admits to coding that.I've been a Cubase-head for a long long time in the 90s and the beginning of 00s, I can safely say that I must have used those on at least 2-3 occasions. Actually I even remember one occasion clearly. I used it [reverb32 I think?] on a snare, I can't remember the track I used it with, though. [to further the irony
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I didn't say TB Reverb is bad. It sounds VERY interesting and "polished" [?!] on some stuff. I liked gated reverb drums, for instance. Just choose some nice, huge preset and put good old Kjaerhus GAG-1 after it. Instant 80s.It's just that it is a little special, but in a good way. Sometimes you just don't need a very transparent reverb.
Oh yeah, I really like Signaldust plugins. They are a must have IMHO. That guy is cooking something for us right now, I'm sure.And yes, I think the comparison with Tila is rather spot on.
Note to self: good for industrial soundscapes, too.
But I did check out that eq he did too after you taking a liking to it.
Very nice.
He does very simple, very powerful, easy to use plugs.
Tila I couldn't live with out really. Just for that 'oh it hasn't been recorded in a dry card board box' kind of sound. Basic reverb. I knew nothing about it. I have the KVR community to thank. But now it's part of my toolkit.. The EQs I am still checking out.
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I really really love that EQ. With such a great analyzer built in.
That alone would be worth the price of admission.
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codec_spurt wrote:
I really really love that EQ. With such a great analyzer built in.
That alone would be worth the price of admission.
It's a brilliant EQ...
All I really need these days...
And FIX is also a really special tool ...
As far as the reverb goes,I use it on less critical parts like percussion etc...
It gives everything a bit of a "lift" but Valhalla is still the first call reverb here
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And then you can even route the outputs of these other tracks back to the drum-track, if you so desireDuX wrote:You can also send all the separate outputs from this drum machine to other tracks and process them with plugins there if you want to...
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Uh-oh, I had practically no idea what I was doing back then, but I remember my first tests with Cubase VST and its effects sounding much worse than what I did on my Portastudio and that old Alesis Nanoverb. Add to that my crappy playing and you had shit galore...DuX wrote: Btw, does anyone remember the first VST reverb plugs that came with cubase?
Now, that was class! I'll bet that no one admits to coding that.
