KVR Audio

Aubrey Lamont · Post by **Aubrey Lamont** » Sun Mar 23, 2014 5:03 pm

Tp3 wrote:Yes,the gui IS beautiful.

But I have found the plug way (WAY) too thick on electronic music. to the extent that it becomes gooey (wheres ReelBus makes everything just "more" in a positive way).

I gain staged the audio before it and flicked through presets (particularly the warmth one) but the sound just became overbearingly thick (not fully distorted but also far from pleasing. IMO at least - with that type of music).

Anyone else ?...

Did you try turning on the oversampling switch?

Monkberry · Post by **Monkberry** » Sun Mar 23, 2014 5:30 pm

Damn, just tried Module and it's such a great tool. Only available as a bundle? Bummer!

bk · Post by bk » Sun Mar 23, 2014 6:35 pm

Monkberry wrote:Damn, just tried Module and it's such a great tool. Only available as a bundle? Bummer!

Yeah, but that bundle is only a few bucks more than what he charges for the individuals he sells. Clearly worth it.

Tp3 · Post by **Tp3** » Sun Mar 23, 2014 6:47 pm

Aubrey Lamont wrote:
Tp3 wrote:Yes,the gui IS beautiful.

But I have found the plug way (WAY) too thick on electronic music. to the extent that it becomes gooey (wheres ReelBus makes everything just "more" in a positive way).

I gain staged the audio before it and flicked through presets (particularly the warmth one) but the sound just became overbearingly thick (not fully distorted but also far from pleasing. IMO at least - with that type of music).

Anyone else ?...
Did you try turning on the oversampling switch?

Yes, it's not that.

I had a little more fun with it... and I think I know what's going on :

It seem that bass/sub-bass heavy material suffer EXTREMELY from very-moderate-to-high values on "Drive" and "Compress" settings. one has to dial them very low in order to maintain "solidity" in the sound otherwise sound breaks/start to fart. try "Warm Saturation" preset - as it is - on bass heavy material and tell me what you came up with.

Monkberry · Post by **Monkberry** » Sun Mar 23, 2014 8:13 pm

bk wrote:
Monkberry wrote:Damn, just tried Module and it's such a great tool. Only available as a bundle? Bummer!
Yeah, but that bundle is only a few bucks more than what he charges for the individuals he sells. Clearly worth it.

You are 100% correct. I checked out what's in the bundle and it's a bargain even if I only got Module and Reverb, but there's quite a bit more included.

djanthonyw · Post by **djanthonyw** » Sun Mar 23, 2014 8:16 pm

What's the difference between Ferox and ReelBus?

sinkmusic · Post by **sinkmusic** » Sun Mar 23, 2014 8:18 pm

djanthonyw wrote:What's the difference between Ferox and ReelBus?

TB Ferox, and its cousin TB ReelBus

One might wonder what the difference is between TB Ferox and its more advanced cousin TB ReelBus:

TB ReelBus is accurately modeled after tape recorders; TB Ferox consists of a more general and simpler tape saturation simulation.
TB ReelBus has tape hiss and asperity noise models, these are not available in TB Ferox.
TB ReelBus has a wide variety of tape models; TB Ferox has saturation and hysteresis controls that can work in 2 modes.
Besides non-linear behavior, TB ReelBus also models certain spectral features of tape, such as the head bump.
TB ReelBus has configurable pre- and post emphasis, not available in TB Ferox.
TB ReelBus has wow and flutter simulation, this is not present in TB Ferox.

In general, TB Ferox has a lower CPU load and is therefore very suitable for individual tracks, while TB ReelBus fits better with busses and complete mixes (although it can sound pretty good on individual tracks as well).

http://www.toneboosters.com/tb-ferox/#more-586

U-o · Post by **U-o** » Sun Mar 23, 2014 8:26 pm

I thought, that "Ferox saturation" is also in TimeMachine and Module as one single knob.

heffus · Post by **heffus** » Sun Mar 23, 2014 8:31 pm

maurone dj wrote:The new GUI for ferox is beautiful, can we have this for all the other plugins?

+1

Guest231427 · Post by **Guest231427** » Sun Mar 23, 2014 10:24 pm

Monkberry wrote:Damn, just tried Module and it's such a great tool. Only available as a bundle? Bummer!

Seriously, buy the Track Essentials for a measly 25 Euros. You won't regret it.
As well as Ferox, all the other plugins in the bundle really are very usable, good quality and low CPU usage.
There are regular free updates too

The new Ferox GUI is stunning. I haven't used Ferox as yet, but I will have to give it a good try out now.

Thanks Jeroen, you totally rock

Aubrey Lamont · Post by **Aubrey Lamont** » Tue Mar 25, 2014 2:25 am

Tp3 wrote:
Aubrey Lamont wrote:
Tp3 wrote:Yes,the gui IS beautiful.

But I have found the plug way (WAY) too thick on electronic music. to the extent that it becomes gooey (wheres ReelBus makes everything just "more" in a positive way).

I gain staged the audio before it and flicked through presets (particularly the warmth one) but the sound just became overbearingly thick (not fully distorted but also far from pleasing. IMO at least - with that type of music).

Anyone else ?...
Did you try turning on the oversampling switch?
Yes, it's not that.

I had a little more fun with it... and I think I know what's going on :

It seem that bass/sub-bass heavy material suffer EXTREMELY from very-moderate-to-high values on "Drive" and "Compress" settings. one has to dial them very low in order to maintain "solidity" in the sound otherwise sound breaks/start to fart. try "Warm Saturation" preset - as it is - on bass heavy material and tell me what you came up with.

Ok, I spent some more time with ferox. I think you're correct, but I don't see this as a flaw with the plugin. I've had good results by just slightly driving the plugin with low saturation settings.

I noticed that "just" 10% saturation is going to add noticeable effect. Anything over that (some presets use 40-60%) will be extreme and can probably only be used for specific tasks.

Tp3 · Post by **Tp3** » Tue Mar 25, 2014 1:11 pm

Aubrey Lamont wrote:Ok, I spent some more time with ferox. I think you're correct, but I don't see this as a flaw with the plugin. I've had good results by just slightly driving the plugin with low saturation settings.

I noticed that "just" 10% saturation is going to add noticeable effect. Anything over that (some presets use 40-60%) will be extreme and can probably only be used for specific tasks.

It's not a flow but such extreme results may give the wrong impression of the plug.

U-o · Post by **U-o** » Tue Apr 15, 2014 4:23 pm

It seems, that (only) ToneBoosters plugins have problems with GUI in FL11.5.8 alpha. See here.

oneshotdeal · Post by **oneshotdeal** » Mon Dec 08, 2014 10:11 pm

Looks like TB BusCompressor is getting some love. Assisted Level Makeup, a high quality mode, a mid/side mode, and, most importantly...

ToneBoosters Facebook wrote: ...a 'hold' control expressed in cycles instead of seconds! The new weapon against intermodulation distortion that almost all compressors suffer from, while maintaining super snappy transient response. Low frequencies will 'hold' longer than high-frequency transients, preventing bass waveform oscillation to modulate mid and high frequency components.

I hope all the changes help with the low frequency smearing that's making this blush a little in comparison to other compressors that give lows some sort of special treatment (Kotelnikov/ThrillseekerVBL)...

jethrobull · Post by **jethrobull** » Mon Dec 08, 2014 10:14 pm

oneshotdeal wrote:Looks like TB BusCompressor is getting some love. Assisted Level Makeup, a high quality mode, a mid/side mode, and, most importantly...

ToneBoosters Facebook wrote: ...a 'hold' control expressed in cycles instead of seconds! The new weapon against intermodulation distortion that almost all compressors suffer from, while maintaining super snappy transient response. Low frequencies will 'hold' longer than high-frequency transients, preventing bass waveform oscillation to modulate mid and high frequency components.
I hope all the changes help with the low frequency smearing that's making this blush a little in comparison to other compressors that give lows some sort of special treatment (Kotelnikov/ThrillseekerVBL)...

I love this comp.I have tried a lot on the master but this thing is a gem.

Toneboosters 3.x!