Bitwig

ThomasHelzle · Post by **ThomasHelzle** » Tue May 24, 2016 9:48 pm

Suloo wrote:facebook plugins? lol, are they going to do commercial breaks ?

I guess so

gesslr · Post by **gesslr** » Wed May 25, 2016 3:46 pm

ThomasHelzle wrote:An new quirk on this seemingly endless road:
Facebook bought that company that creates tools for spatial audio:
https://facebook360.fb.com/spatial-workstation/
Now you can download those for free.
The plugins work in Bitwig.
If you place the FB360 Control plugin on any track in BWS (does not have to contain anything), start the included video player in slave mode and load a movie, that movie will play in sync with BWS (on my old 2008 MacPro it stutters, but I guess on a recent rig it would probably work).
So what's the catch?
Well, that player will play your video as 360° movie of course...
So you can happily navigate around in it with a mouse or even watch it with an Oculus with head tracking if you have one, but you can't see all of it on the desktop at once...

Not a solution for most people I guess, but I thought I post it anyway...
Maybe somebody actually IS doing 360° movies... (or you could render a 360° movie with a partial screen containing a video as large as the actual viewers view...?).

Cheers,

Tom

How very...left field. I'll have to check this out of course.

ThomasHelzle · Post by **ThomasHelzle** » Thu Jan 12, 2017 9:18 pm

Bitwig 2.0 has MTC output now and I just tried to use Cubase 8 LE slaved to it as Video Player on Windows 8.1 x64.
Works great and only uses ~2% CPU here. I updated to Cubase LE 8 a while ago from an ages old hardware-bundled LE 4 for 10 Euro...

Best solution so far for me, having the video fullscreen on my second monitor.

Cheers,

Tom

shadiradio · Post by **shadiradio** » Thu Jan 12, 2017 9:21 pm

ThomasHelzle wrote:Bitwig 2.0 has MTC output now and I just tried to use Cubase 8 LE slaved to it as Video Player on Windows 8.1 x64.
Works great and only uses ~2% CPU here. I updated to Cubase LE 8 a while ago from an ages old hardware-bundled LE 4 for 10 Euro...

Best solution so far for me, having the video fullscreen on my second monitor.

Cheers,

Tom

That's good to hear. You have 2.0 beta access already?

ThomasHelzle · Post by **ThomasHelzle** » Thu Jan 12, 2017 9:25 pm

Alpha, yes.

Cheers,

Tom

gesslr · Post by **gesslr** » Thu Jan 12, 2017 10:04 pm

Fantastic to hear. Definitely want to give this a workout if/when I get access to the beta. Thanks Thomas!

ThomasHelzle · Post by **ThomasHelzle** » Thu Jan 12, 2017 10:12 pm

Yeah, it's different than what I expected but there are many things a lot of people asked for for a long time.
Like 32 Bit bounce and full tablet pen support.
I have no hardware synths, but those into modular gear should love the new devices.
And that new interface is just lovely and very clever.
You can configure the pop up browser and hide columns you don't want to see.
And my favourite feature of all times: you can disable device-pre-selection now - it was always wrong for me in 1.x

Cheers,

Tom

shadiradio · Post by **shadiradio** » Thu Jan 12, 2017 10:20 pm

ThomasHelzle wrote:You can configure the pop up browser and hide columns you don't want to see.
And my favourite feature of all times: you can disable device-pre-selection now - it was always wrong for me in 1.x

lehtiniemi · Post by **lehtiniemi** » Thu Jan 12, 2017 10:21 pm

ThomasHelzle wrote:Bitwig 2.0 has MTC output now and I just tried to use Cubase 8 LE slaved to it as Video Player on Windows 8.1 x64.
Works great and only uses ~2% CPU here. I updated to Cubase LE 8 a while ago from an ages old hardware-bundled LE 4 for 10 Euro...

Best solution so far for me, having the video fullscreen on my second monitor.

Cheers,

Tom

Yea, it sucks there isn't (=I haven't found) a slaveable video player for Windows. Mac has "Video Slave" (ironic) but video player is still missing. Of course, when scoring, you eventually want to be able to export stuff as well for demo purposes for the client so built-in support is eventually needed. But hoping to find a light-weight solution for Windows as well. Perhaps you can slave Ableton Live with MTC? Haven't tried. As far as I remember, Ableton Live video window disappears when you switch to another app so this is an annoyance if you would use it with another software as any kind of master.

codec17 · Post by **codec17** » Thu Jan 12, 2017 10:22 pm

shadiradio wrote:
ThomasHelzle wrote:You can configure the pop up browser and hide columns you don't want to see.
And my favourite feature of all times: you can disable device-pre-selection now - it was always wrong for me in 1.x

Nice!

Also when you "stretch" it bigger/longer it remembers it size?
Thanx in advance

ThomasHelzle · Post by **ThomasHelzle** » Thu Jan 12, 2017 10:45 pm

lehtiniemi wrote:Yea, it sucks there isn't (=I haven't found) a slaveable video player for Windows. Mac has "Video Slave" (ironic) but video player is still missing. Of course, when scoring, you eventually want to be able to export stuff as well for demo purposes for the client so built-in support is eventually needed. But hoping to find a light-weight solution for Windows as well. Perhaps you can slave Ableton Live with MTC? Haven't tried. As far as I remember, Ableton Live video window disappears when you switch to another app so this is an annoyance if you would use it with another software as any kind of master.

Yeah, I couldn't get any of the available players to work reliably on windows, but Cubase LE has great video support with fast thumbnails, is very light and doesn't need much resources. It's video player also vanishes if it loses focus, but not if you make it fullscreen

So I put it fullscreen on my second 30" monitor and it works perfectly.

Cubasis AV was actually my very first midi & audio sequencer on Windows that I did scoring with like 20 years ago... I never liked Cubase much, but as a video player it's really good, and if you have some old bundled version lying around, it can be updated for little money if needed.

Ableton Live works also AFAIK, you can even rewire it using Rewire VST IIRC for even tighter timing, but I found Live much heavier on resources. But I sold my Live Suite anyway long ago.

Adobe Audition could also work, but it's rather quirky and my old version 3 doesn't load most newer videos.

Export isn't a topic for me, since I do the final comp in other software anyway.

Cheers,

Tom

anp27 · Post by **anp27** » Fri Jan 13, 2017 1:41 am

ThomasHelzle wrote:Bitwig 2.0 has MTC output now and I just tried to use Cubase 8 LE slaved to it as Video Player on Windows 8.1 x64.

Thanks for the update, would I be able to slave Quicktime Player on my Mac for video then? Or perhaps slave Logic X the way you did?

ThomasHelzle · Post by **ThomasHelzle** » Fri Jan 13, 2017 9:24 am

If they can be slaved via MTC, yes. Never heard of Quicktime being able to do that though?

And if a software can be slaved via the Rewire VST, it's a probable "yes" as well. You can try the demo right now already with 1.x
http://www.energy-xt.com/index.php?id=0115

As for combining the audio with the video: You might want to check out Blackmagic DaVinciResolve - free and very capable even in the free version (up to full HD). I currently use it to put 5.1 surround sound from Bitwig Studio under a 3D animation I created:
https://www.blackmagicdesign.com/produc ... nciresolve
Download:
https://www.blackmagicdesign.com/suppor ... and-fusion
Be sure to not download the "Studio" version, that is the paid-for one.

Fusion, which they also offer in a free version is a VERY capable professional compositing software BTW. May also be worth your while:
https://www.blackmagicdesign.com/products/fusion

Cheers,

Tom

lehtiniemi · Post by **lehtiniemi** » Fri Jan 13, 2017 10:03 am

ThomasHelzle wrote:
lehtiniemi wrote: Ableton Live works also AFAIK, you can even rewire it using Rewire VST IIRC for even tighter timing, but I found Live much heavier on resources. But I sold my Live Suite anyway long ago.

Adobe Audition could also work, but it's rather quirky and my old version 3 doesn't load most newer videos.

Export isn't a topic for me, since I do the final comp in other software anyway.

Cheers,

Tom

I have a Cubase LE license lying around, came with Komplete Audio 6, I'll have to give it a shot! Thanks for the tip.

I don't export the final stuff either from the DAW, but delivering demos and sketches for the client straight from the DAW was what I did with Live. It's really quick just to export the selected area and send it to client for listening.

Excds · Post by **Excds** » Fri Jan 13, 2017 10:25 am

lehtiniemi wrote:
ThomasHelzle wrote:Bitwig 2.0 has MTC output now and I just tried to use Cubase 8 LE slaved to it as Video Player on Windows 8.1 x64.
Works great and only uses ~2% CPU here. I updated to Cubase LE 8 a while ago from an ages old hardware-bundled LE 4 for 10 Euro...

Best solution so far for me, having the video fullscreen on my second monitor.

Cheers,

Tom
Yea, it sucks there isn't (=I haven't found) a slaveable video player for Windows. Mac has "Video Slave" (ironic) but video player is still missing. Of course, when scoring, you eventually want to be able to export stuff as well for demo purposes for the client so built-in support is eventually needed. But hoping to find a light-weight solution for Windows as well. Perhaps you can slave Ableton Live with MTC? Haven't tried. As far as I remember, Ableton Live video window disappears when you switch to another app so this is an annoyance if you would use it with another software as any kind of master.

Try xjadeo, it's available for Windows: http://xjadeo.sourceforge.net/download.html

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