Looking for an over the top tape sim

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KVRian
840 posts since 3 Nov, 2006 from Poland

Post Sat Jul 25, 2015 4:49 am

I'm using tape sim as an effect - mostly for saturation and wow/flutter. For now I'm using a Reaktor Ensamble - Tape Machine (http://www.native-instruments.com/en/co ... show/6617/). I like it, but I'm looking for something new and maybe better.

I like to push it hard in the wow/flutter department so wow/flutter is a must. I'm not looking for something 100% accurate or subtle analog touch. I'm looking for something obvious and bold. And for OSX. And not from Waves ;).

I've found a few plugins and I will be testing them, but maybe I've missed something... Can you help me, guys (and gals)? :)

These are on my "to test" list:

SKNote - Roundtone
ToneBoosters - TB ReelBus
U-he - Satin
Slate - VTM

KVRAF
15159 posts since 7 Sep, 2008

Post Sat Jul 25, 2015 4:52 am

I too was recently looking for one to completely abuse.

The winners by a long margin (IMO obviously) were Magnetic and Waves Kramer Tape.

Hmmmm edit: you do specify no waves. Sorry :oops:
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KVRAF
30140 posts since 27 Jul, 2005 from the wilds of wanny

Post Sat Jul 25, 2015 4:57 am

Check out SDRR from Klanghelm ...
http://klanghelm.com/SDRR.php

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KVRian

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840 posts since 3 Nov, 2006 from Poland

Post Sat Jul 25, 2015 5:01 am

It's funny - I have both SDRR and Magnetic :) but does SDRR has wow/flutter?

I read somewhere about using tape echo sim as a standard tape sim - will try that with Nomad Factory Echoes...

KVRAF
15159 posts since 7 Sep, 2008

Post Sat Jul 25, 2015 5:12 am

thecontrolcentre wrote:Check out SDRR from Klanghelm ...
http://klanghelm.com/SDRR.php
That looks awesome!
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KVRian
832 posts since 10 Jan, 2010

Post Sat Jul 25, 2015 6:32 am

try the line 6 tube echo.... controls for lots of wow/flutter. it's just a cool tape echo all around... not anything like authentic really but cool sounding. it's in the basic pod farm and maybe even the free one...

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KVRAF
3204 posts since 12 May, 2011 from Everywhere and nowhere, baby

Post Sat Jul 25, 2015 6:33 am

No mention of budget...
I actually use Satin so I'd say go for Satin ($130 if you can afford it) for it's flexibility or Reelbus (20 euros) for economy. Both have wow & flutter, but Satin does all things tape, including echo and flanging/chorus, and does it well. Lots of tweakibility.

SDRR is a saturator, by the by.
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KVRAF
33356 posts since 11 Aug, 2008 from another dimension

Post Sat Jul 25, 2015 7:04 am

Instead of just using one instance of a tape plugin, why not chain several instances together with different settings for each instance?
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KVRAF
3624 posts since 29 Jun, 2011 from USA

Post Sat Jul 25, 2015 7:06 am

Toneboosters Ferox is nice, and cheap. Edit - actually I think you'd want to check out their Reelbus.
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KVRAF
11057 posts since 26 Jun, 2006 from San Francisco Bay Area

Post Sat Jul 25, 2015 7:40 am

Virsyn's VTAPE is by far the best I've tried. They may still be having their summer sale.
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KVRist
429 posts since 22 May, 2009 from Portugal,Azores (faial island)

Post Sat Jul 25, 2015 7:54 am

+1 for Satin...It's so much versatile than other tape sim's out there.
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KVRAF
7547 posts since 7 Aug, 2003 from San Francisco Bay Area

Post Sat Jul 25, 2015 8:07 am

I like Satin, especially for the wow and flutter. But otherwise it doesn't get grungy enough for my tastes. I prefer to bounce sounds to a cheap physical cassette deck and then record them back into the DAW. Also, using my Strymon El Capistan tape echo pedal in looper mode, the sound will begin to deteriorate in really cool ways each time it loops back around. I'll record a couple of minutes of that and pick out my favorite bits.
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KVRAF
6515 posts since 13 Jan, 2003 from Darkest Kent, UK

Post Sat Jul 25, 2015 8:44 am

Try the microcassette effect in Musical Entropy's Guitar Gadgets. Very not subtle but fun and worth trying if you want an extreme effect. Free too so nothing to lose.
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KVRAF
3328 posts since 20 Feb, 2004

Post Sat Jul 25, 2015 8:46 am

TB ReelBus has a "crusty old tape" or somesuch model, which can really push the wow and flutter as well as the tape noise and distortion. For getting that worn-out old tape effect it's the best one-stop solution I've found, except maybe for Sonitex, although Izotope Vinyl, some Reaktor ensembles, followed by a tape saturation sim can work well too.
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KVRAF
3411 posts since 27 Dec, 2002 from North East England

Post Sat Jul 25, 2015 9:23 am

JerGoertz wrote:TB ReelBus has a "crusty old tape" or somesuch model, which can really push the wow and flutter as well as the tape noise and distortion. For getting that worn-out old tape effect it's the best one-stop solution I've found, except maybe for Sonitex, although Izotope Vinyl, some Reaktor ensembles, followed by a tape saturation sim can work well too.
Yep, one of the models in Reelbus is absolutely busted in terms of wow, flutter, and stereo artifacts. Cheap too, so worth a look.

As an outlier, how about Dyvision's Video Tape Emulator. That can really bust things up with noise and wobble. Bit of a one-trick pony though. http://www.dyvision.co.uk/videotape/vt.html

Used the Dyvision plug on this track quite extensively, along with a ton of other degradations and noisy things at all points in the chain. I think Dyvision might even be on the master bus actually. Never got finished though. https://soundcloud.com/charityqueen/flo ... -early-wip

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