Jean michel Jarre VST

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Lotuzia wrote:
Syntilla wrote:
Numanoid wrote: should be worthy to check out for those seeking Oxygene sounds.
Yeah, should be ...
It's only taken about 3 years to fix the Filter Level knob so it actually does anything (and to make the sequencer one-shot mode useable).
Maybe when they get around to fixing the Osc 1 Shape and the Trapezoid decay modulation I'll start taking it seriously as an emulation.
Not saying it doesn't sound good - just, not a Synthi.
Well, reducing the full modular Xils3 ( zillions of possible modulations and intermodulations ) to two mods that dont still work totally as expected seems a bit unfair to me but well if its the only way you see it, its ok.... :shrug:

I prefer by much Peter Zinoviev's approach, the creator of the Synthi, who says that the Xils3 is his prefered synthi emulation, and that it brings a lot of additional things that were not possible in the original synth. And that, if he had to do it all over again today, he'll do it with ..... Xils :wink:
Precisely. Zinovieff was always looking to the future - hence he calls the Xils 'A great step forward'.
What I - and evidently the OP - are looking for in a vintage synth emulation is a great step back.

And 'only 2 mods that don't work as expected'? You don't think the Trap was pretty much a defining feature of the Synthis?

And I don't really care whether you think it's 'ok' how I see it - smiley shrug or not. Your often patronising, continual pimping for Xils on this forum is one of the reasons I no longer buy from them/you.

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Sorry Xils disapointed you, but still Peter Zinoviev see it as his prefered Synthi emulation (not that there are tons of possible choices but well ) , and there are not so much synths with trapezoidal EVs around, whether you think you can modulate them in an accurate way, or less.

And thanks for pointing out that the other things were fixed.

Anyway, in due time, the Xils3 will receive ... much more than an update, so we'll see.
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himalaya wrote:Also, you mention the Minimoog - it wasn't used on Oxygene, as far as I know.
The sound I was referring to is the bass at 4:25 of Oxygene 1. At least on the Oxygene Live video it's played on the Minimoog (IIRC). And I remember having huge difficulties to get that sound with the "generic" VA (due to the mono features specific to the Minimoog, as I understand know).[/quote]

I am also curious what he used in the original recording for this great bass, and also the trombone like brass coming in a bit later. In the live concert he used the Mini and an ARP 2600 respectively (although the ARP live did not sound anything like the original recording).

I don't think one can take the instrument list from the LP (or CD) cover for granted, as it does not mention the Minipops either. So, there are definitely omissions.

Anyone out there more knowledgeable what he used originally?


Cheers,
Martin

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I remember reading in an interview that Jarre spends 70% of his (musical) time creating sounds - from this and many other threads about his sounds, I would say it shows :)

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bedjka wrote:Hi
i am looking for a vst synth which would reproduce this kind of sound
(oxygene)
Thanks
Do you mean this Sound?
Please wait a little Moment for Start

https://soundcloud.com/pietli/smastone

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Mac of BIOnighT wrote:I remember reading in an interview that Jarre spends 70% of his (musical) time creating sounds - from this and many other threads about his sounds, I would say it shows :)
Yes, he really masters the art. Also, I guess it is unlikely that the sound is just a 'pure' synth. Most likely there is some slight phasing or other effects on it.

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He also used Oberheim synths
The notes you don't play creates the silent gaps for you to hear the notes you do play :phones:

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himalaya wrote: By the way, anyone who likes JMJ's early sound (Oxygene, Equinox, Magnetic Fieldsds) check out Kebu's music channel on YouTube. :love:
This is great stuff and should be a lesson to anyone who wants to make Jarre music that you don't need the actual gear. The arrangement and style are most important. As long as you've got phasey strings and bouncy basslines it doesn't matter if it's from an Eminent + Small Stone or a plugin. My "jarre-style" album doesn't use much of the same original equipment but I tried to arrange things the way he did, and that makes the difference.

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Syntilla wrote:And I don't really care whether you think it's 'ok' how I see it - smiley shrug or not. Your often patronising, continual pimping for Xils on this forum is one of the reasons I no longer buy from them/you.
But he is affiliated with Xils so naturally he wants to push their product, c'est la vie ;)

To make an analogy: If you look at the reviews in the review section, lots of them being 10 out of 10, that's most likely because the reviewer have gotten a NFR free plugin to come in here and promote the product.

That kind of thing seem to be rather common and accepted in this forum.

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i also cant see what Lotuzia did wrong with supporting Xils, he have every right to do it. this reproach is pure nonsense, maybe you think again about the whole.
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Thanks to all guys. Deeply appreciated :)

Actually this threads reminded me of a cover I made of Oxygen 4 ... last year, same month, but 8 days difference !!!

So I reloaded the old project, quickly edited the Lead, replayed once again the melody because the patch had its attack changed, and there it is. The bass and the lead brass are PolyKB II, everything else is Synthix. No additionnal Fx except reverb, no compressors, no EQ ( Not that this track dont demand it in a massive way but well )

Oxygen 4 Xils

Its by no means an A/B recreation, I took as a basis a crappy youtube video, and I took a lot of liberty to change the patches, like the "rising strings" in the bridges. Hopefully it will retain a tiny bit of the charm of the original.
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PietW wrote

"Do you mean this Sound?"


Yes, among others. Great sound.

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PietW. wrote:
bedjka wrote:Hi
i am looking for a vst synth which would reproduce this kind of sound
(oxygene)
Thanks
Do you mean this Sound?
Please wait a little Moment for Start

https://soundcloud.com/pietli/smastone
Is where no VSTi or a set of sounds avaible in order to
make this Jarre-Sound real?
In my researches and testing serveral VST I come only
in the direction to it, but far away from the example
here in soundcloud.

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Bladerunner1962 wrote:
PietW. wrote:
bedjka wrote:Hi
i am looking for a vst synth which would reproduce this kind of sound
(oxygene)
Thanks
Do you mean this Sound?
Please wait a little Moment for Start

https://soundcloud.com/pietli/smastone
Is where no VSTi or a set of sounds avaible in order to
make this Jarre-Sound real?
In my researches and testing serveral VST I come only
in the direction to it, but far away from the example
here in soundcloud.
Pretty sure I already said it, but: Hollow Sun String Synths has pretty much this exact sound.
http://www.hollowsun.com/HS2/products/strings/
Check the demo track on that page.

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