Best reverb, for all jobs? (ongoing process)
- KVRian
- 1115 posts since 31 Aug, 2004
Exponential Phoenix is invisible 3D maker - really clean and effective. If you need something speacial with character and modulation, try Exponential R2, Lexicon PCM, LPX or Valhalla V3
- KVRAF
- 3303 posts since 27 Mar, 2010 from UK
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 42529 posts since 21 Dec, 2005
I like RP verb, I have RP verb. I have to admit, I'd forgotten about itxx JPRacer xx wrote:Just to add one more, I think RP-Verb is really good too. It can sound metallic, but in a good way. You also get RP-Delay with it, which can produce some f**k top sh*t!
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 42529 posts since 21 Dec, 2005
That the Hofa IQ reverb sounds absolutely fantastic but there are some gui issues. Sometimes it will just wail. Sometimes, there are drop outs. It's not cut and dry exactly when it happens. I'll re-email them today at least informing them of my findings.MFXxx wrote:@ hibidy - I lost the thread ... what was your decisionIm lost...
- KVRAF
- 3303 posts since 27 Mar, 2010 from UK
Cheers for the update. I'll keep an eye on how yu get on. Did you but it or simply demo?hibidy wrote:That the Hofa IQ reverb sounds absolutely fantastic but there are some gui issues. Sometimes it will just wail. Sometimes, there are drop outs. It's not cut and dry exactly when it happens. I'll re-email them today at least informing them of my findings.MFXxx wrote:@ hibidy - I lost the thread ... what was your decisionIm lost...
I sucummbed this year to both Vahalla verbs (didnt think I would).
May give Hofa a whirl when I get some time.
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- KVRAF
- 4584 posts since 21 Sep, 2005
Just to add to the demos that are on the SKnote site, I quickly just rendered these out. Very boring, but that is what you want sometimes. Just cycling through a few presets I quickly knocked up:
Necklace:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/860 ... cklace.mp3
Stagespace:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/860 ... espace.mp3
First impressions?
Necklace seems quite versatile with some nice soft reverbs, considering it is modeled on a spring. It'll definitely get some use. Nothing earth shattering but it does what it does well.
Stagespace seems a bit unremarkable at first till you play about with the controls. It is a bit different to other reverbs with lots of unfamiliar settings (at least to me). But you can get a good range of tones out of it. Nothing that really grabs your attention. But I think it might be more of a workhorse kind of thing. It can get quite dense though. I need to learn how to use it before I comment further. I got it sounding quite close to Eos though at least on one setting.
Here are some quick examples I did on a vox sample -
Sample-Dry:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/860 ... st-dry.mp3
Sample with Eos on a send:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/860 ... st-EOS.mp3
Sample with Stagespace on a send:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/860 ... ESPACE.mp3
Sample with Necklace on a send:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/860 ... CKLACE.mp3
Necklace:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/860 ... cklace.mp3
Stagespace:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/860 ... espace.mp3
First impressions?
Necklace seems quite versatile with some nice soft reverbs, considering it is modeled on a spring. It'll definitely get some use. Nothing earth shattering but it does what it does well.
Stagespace seems a bit unremarkable at first till you play about with the controls. It is a bit different to other reverbs with lots of unfamiliar settings (at least to me). But you can get a good range of tones out of it. Nothing that really grabs your attention. But I think it might be more of a workhorse kind of thing. It can get quite dense though. I need to learn how to use it before I comment further. I got it sounding quite close to Eos though at least on one setting.
Here are some quick examples I did on a vox sample -
Sample-Dry:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/860 ... st-dry.mp3
Sample with Eos on a send:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/860 ... st-EOS.mp3
Sample with Stagespace on a send:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/860 ... ESPACE.mp3
Sample with Necklace on a send:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/860 ... CKLACE.mp3
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 42529 posts since 21 Dec, 2005
I haven't bought it yet.MFXxx wrote:Cheers for the update. I'll keep an eye on how yu get on. Did you but it or simply demo?hibidy wrote:That the Hofa IQ reverb sounds absolutely fantastic but there are some gui issues. Sometimes it will just wail. Sometimes, there are drop outs. It's not cut and dry exactly when it happens. I'll re-email them today at least informing them of my findings.MFXxx wrote:@ hibidy - I lost the thread ... what was your decisionIm lost...
I sucummbed this year to both Vahalla verbs (didnt think I would).
May give Hofa a whirl when I get some time.
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- KVRAF
- 4584 posts since 21 Sep, 2005
Did you get around to installing V7 of the Melda plugin after all? I'm curious to know if you got the Bricasti samples to load. Which would indicate that there is definitely a problem with v8, if you did.MFXxx wrote:@ hibidy - I lost the thread ... what was your decisionIm lost...
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- KVRAF
- 4584 posts since 21 Sep, 2005
Holy Moly! The CPU needed for Stagespace is through the roof!

I expected it to be a bit lower than Verbtone, not practically double it.
Oh well.
The figures are accurate, I double checked them in Ableton and give or take one or two percent, they correspond for all of them.
The Korg MDE-X isn't on that list but it does come in at the lowest CPU reading of 2 percent. By far the best bang for the buck sound/cpu wise.
Time to get a new laptop I think.

I expected it to be a bit lower than Verbtone, not practically double it.
Oh well.
The figures are accurate, I double checked them in Ableton and give or take one or two percent, they correspond for all of them.
The Korg MDE-X isn't on that list but it does come in at the lowest CPU reading of 2 percent. By far the best bang for the buck sound/cpu wise.
Time to get a new laptop I think.
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- KVRAF
- 4584 posts since 21 Sep, 2005
V0RT3X wrote:What do you have now?codec_spurt wrote:Time to get a new laptop I think.
Triple Core AMD 1.8GHz. It's very average I know, but it does pretty much what I want.
I have a quad core i5 desktop oc'd to 3.6GHz and it's super fast compared to this.
I think maybe a new i5 lappy might make a big difference.
It's weird though, coz when I just loaded Stagespace and Necklace and put them on a drum track it says my cpu is at 20 percent, that is with attack and drumazon going too. This is in EXT2.
- KVRAF
- 6208 posts since 25 Dec, 2004
Don't get me wrong though, Valhalla Vintage Verb is amazing.
It's just very colourful and characterful. The 'mid' frequencies can be overwhelming.
It's great, but very much an effect. I would use it and R2 for most big dubby verbs and lush spaces, but i just find that VVV often has too much of a ringing harmonic thing going on. Which can offer something really special, but like i say, after i tried Exponential - I find they are less of an 'effect', and mesh with the source like no other verb. Phoenix is definitely something special. I will continue writing home about THAT verb
It's just very colourful and characterful. The 'mid' frequencies can be overwhelming.
It's great, but very much an effect. I would use it and R2 for most big dubby verbs and lush spaces, but i just find that VVV often has too much of a ringing harmonic thing going on. Which can offer something really special, but like i say, after i tried Exponential - I find they are less of an 'effect', and mesh with the source like no other verb. Phoenix is definitely something special. I will continue writing home about THAT verb
V0RT3X wrote:Yah I imagine I'll probably end up buying exponential audios stuff someday too. And Altiverb.. but only when i get more cash saved up which won't be anytime soon with school bills coming up.sqigls wrote:I thought I was happy with Valhalla until I tried Exponential Audio :p
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- KVRAF
- 3426 posts since 15 Nov, 2006 from Pacific NW
Have you tried the Smooth Plate algorithm in the beta yet?sqigls wrote:Don't get me wrong though, Valhalla Vintage Verb is amazing.
It's just very colourful and characterful. The 'mid' frequencies can be overwhelming.
It's great, but very much an effect. I would use it and R2 for most big dubby verbs and lush spaces, but i just find that VVV often has too much of a ringing harmonic thing going on.
