KVR Audio

dasdeck · Post by **dasdeck** » Sun Feb 05, 2017 1:03 pm

do_androids_dream wrote:
dasdeck wrote:Just tried the new version, and it obviously distorts less.
However, i can not upgrade without a "monitor" switch (like in V3) .
Or is it there and i SRTFM ? ?

Cheers!

JM
Does that mean it can go louder? I bought AOM Invisible to achieve a similar transparent sound but with the ability to go louder before distortion.

AOM Invisible (at least V1) has a different character then barricade v3/v4. not sure it goes louder, it is just cleaner when pushed harder, though it does not "feel" "louder" (to me), mind you, distortion sounds loud! this is probably partly why clippers are a good choice to go loud. AOM Invisible has a very clipper like characteristic also. It breaks up in a similar fashion too! I actually think the old barricade could be pushed harder then AOM without "distortion", though it was not as "transparent" e.g. you could hear the "compression". Anyways.
While I too think that AOM Invisible and Barricade V3 have "some" similaritys in regards to sound (very woody

), though AOM Invisible is really sounding different to most limiters due to it's clipper like behaviour.

Cheers!

do_androids_dream · Post by **do_androids_dream** » Sun Feb 05, 2017 7:29 pm

dasdeck wrote:
do_androids_dream wrote:
dasdeck wrote:Just tried the new version, and it obviously distorts less.
However, i can not upgrade without a "monitor" switch (like in V3) .
Or is it there and i SRTFM ? ?

Cheers!

JM
Does that mean it can go louder? I bought AOM Invisible to achieve a similar transparent sound but with the ability to go louder before distortion.
AOM Invisible (at least V1) has a different character then barricade v3/v4. not sure it goes louder, it is just cleaner when pushed harder, though it does not "feel" "louder" (to me), mind you, distortion sounds loud! this is probably partly why clippers are a good choice to go loud. AOM Invisible has a very clipper like characteristic also. It breaks up in a similar fashion too! I actually think the old barricade could be pushed harder then AOM without "distortion", though it was not as "transparent" e.g. you could hear the "compression". Anyways.
While I too think that AOM Invisible and Barricade V3 have "some" similaritys in regards to sound (very woody ), though AOM Invisible is really sounding different to most limiters due to it's clipper like behaviour.

Cheers!

I agree that AOM has an amazing ability to remain very transparent - it has a clipper mode - but there's little difference to my ears between it's straight limiter mode and the clipper mode. I actually use a soft clipper as my final plugin more often than a limiter these days - especially where super loud masters are required. AOM is the only limiter I've found that can compete with that. Before I had it I was using Barricade V3 - which is why I was curious.

fluffy_little_something · Mon Feb 06, 2017 6:24 pm

I am kind of happy no update is planned for the track essentials bundle. It is good the way it is. Funny how stuff is always promoted as great - until an upgrade comes out and one gets the impression that the old version was not that great after all, compared to the new one

Barricade 3 is my only TB bus plugin. But I doubt an update makes much sense for amateurs like me. I was planning on buying three more of the individual bus ones, but in view of the new upgrade procedures and prices, I guess I will not do so after all (assuming they will all be updated to the new ways sooner or later). I don't even like the new, modern GUI look. Making the distinct old TB GUI style resizeable would have been enough.

What's the new plugin bundle available since January 29th? Does it contain new versions of v3 stuff?

soulone82 · Post by **soulone82** » Mon Feb 06, 2017 7:52 pm

fluffy_little_something wrote:I am kind of happy no update is planned for the track essentials bundle.

Where did you read that?

jdnz · Post by **jdnz** » Mon Feb 06, 2017 7:55 pm

fluffy_little_something wrote: What's the new plugin bundle available since January 29th? Does it contain new versions of v3 stuff?

I downloaded it the other day - all the v3 plugins are the 04/2016 versions, it's just got morphit and barricade v4 added

fluffy_little_something · Mon Feb 06, 2017 7:56 pm

soulone82 wrote:
fluffy_little_something wrote:I am kind of happy no update is planned for the track essentials bundle.
Where did you read that?

In this thread, from a poster called svama.

Svama wrote:I asked about an update for the track essentials, his another was no update planned.
I'm using most of the time Meldaproduction plugins, free for lifetime is great and there are some new guis planned.

soulone82 · Post by **soulone82** » Mon Feb 06, 2017 10:36 pm

fluffy_little_something wrote:
soulone82 wrote:
fluffy_little_something wrote:I am kind of happy no update is planned for the track essentials bundle.
Where did you read that?
In this thread, from a poster called svama.

Svama wrote:I asked about an update for the track essentials, his another was no update planned.
I'm using most of the time Meldaproduction plugins, free for lifetime is great and there are some new guis planned.

That´s odd. I could swear I read on Tonebooster´s facebook some time ago that their whole line of plugins will get overhauled.

martinjuenke · Post by **martinjuenke** » Mon Feb 06, 2017 10:44 pm

Me too! Barricade 4 is worth the update. It has a pretty cool and simple compressor included. I already integrated into my mastering chain...

audiosabre · Post by **audiosabre** » Tue Feb 07, 2017 2:02 am

I'd like to see the ability to change comp/lim threshold parameters using scroll wheel, & fine adjust parameters using scroll wheel. You could do this in previous versions.

nicksohn · Post by **nicksohn** » Tue Feb 07, 2017 3:26 am

I've upgraded to v4. It is nice!!
But i still need v3, there is v3 mode in v4 though.

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Tue Feb 07, 2017 11:54 am

I shot them a mail yesterday, asking if the Track Esentials plugins also get a v4 upgrade. Jeroen said that he doesn't know where the rumours originate from that the whole plugin line gets v4 upgrades now, and that there are currently no plans to upgrade the Track Essentials plugins to v4. So, that's that. On the other hand, he pointed out that the upgrade options are very cheap, so, even if i buy the Track Essentials plugins now, and there will be a v4 version, upgrading would be as cheap as 5 €. Fair enough.

soulone82 · Post by **soulone82** » Tue Feb 07, 2017 12:02 pm

mementus · Post by **mementus** » Tue Feb 14, 2017 8:26 pm

It'd be very handy for me to have a dry wet knob on TBReelBus.
tbh I don't know if this makes sense.
Can playing with the saturator knob lead to a similar result?

edit: It would be nice to have 'preamps/saturators' by TB too!
And a micro shift plugin.

mozart999uk · Post by **mozart999uk** » Fri Feb 17, 2017 2:43 pm

dasdeck wrote: However, i can not upgrade without a "monitor" switch (like in V3) .
Or is it there and i SRTFM ? ?

Cheers!

JM

I'd like to know about this too. Can't see anything about it in the manual"

mutantdog · Post by **mutantdog** » Fri Feb 17, 2017 10:28 pm

It seems i don't qualify for the Barricade upgrade since i got my v3 second-hand. While i'm happy enough with it that i'd otherwise never consider replacing it, v4 could change my mind even if bought outright.

However, aside from the incredibly useful monitor switch, it appears the inbuilt dithering feature is absent too. I tend to use v3's dither rather than Ableton's, for one thing it helps ensure i don't end up with a clipped master. Also, there are many times when i prefer to record the output direct to another channel rather than render. The noise shaping seems to be useful for preserving transients too (although i realise this may be completely imagined).

Are these both really absent?

ToneBoosters, I love your plugins