Sorry, i didn't want to bother you. I just expressed my opinion. First time i talk about price on KVR. Sorry again. I won't talk about it anymorenoiseboyuk wrote:Ach the price thing.... enough already. It's the same every time. .
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- KVRAF
- 1602 posts since 14 Oct, 2002
- KVRAF
- 22932 posts since 8 Oct, 2014
It doesn't matter if it's the same thing every year. When something is blatantly wrong, it's wrong.noiseboyuk wrote:Ach the price thing.... enough already. It's the same every time. You pay more to update on release - pretty sure it was exactly the same with V. Hang around and they'll sell it to you cheaper. There we go, that's the deal.
KVR....
Meanwhile, nobody know of a definitely list of what is actually new here? Last time I know they remodelled some filters as I recall, for example.
New Customer: $400 gets you 21 brand new synths.
Old Customer: $200 gets you 4 brand new synths.
If you and everybody else can't see the absolute lunacy of this then I'm sorry, but I for one am not going to just sit back and accept this. And maybe if enough people pointed out just how wrong this was, MAYBE Arturia would STOP doing it to their loyal customers.
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- KVRAF
- 4726 posts since 25 Mar, 2016 from Seattle
SHOUT about it bud!lalo wrote:Sorry, i didn't want to bother you. I just expressed my opinion. First time i talk about price on KVR. Sorry again. I won't talk about it anymorenoiseboyuk wrote:Ach the price thing.... enough already. It's the same every time. .
That’s the only way we will get heard by these money grabbers.
Obviously Dude has more money than some of us here..
- KVRAF
- 6097 posts since 5 Jul, 2001 from Just about .... there
how about shouting about it respectfully, instead of being douche bags about it?simmo75 wrote:SHOUT about it bud!
Calling a business a money grabber is redundantly, repeating the title, repeatedly over again, redundantly.That’s the only way we will get heard by these money grabbers.
And this has what to do with any price of anything ... all people have different amounts of money at all times.Obviously Dude has more money than some of us here..
If you have to ask, you can't afford the answer
- KVRAF
- 6097 posts since 5 Jul, 2001 from Just about .... there
at least no one has recommended Reaper as a better solution than VC6 yetchk071 wrote:I said it in another thread, it gets more and more political here, in every thread.
If you have to ask, you can't afford the answer
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- KVRAF
- 4726 posts since 25 Mar, 2016 from Seattle
Excuse me?!SJ_Digriz wrote:how about shouting about it respectfully, instead of being douche bags about it?simmo75 wrote:SHOUT about it bud!Calling a business a money grabber is redundantly, repeating the title, repeatedly over again, redundantly.That’s the only way we will get heard by these money grabbers.And this has what to do with any price of anything ... all people have different amounts of money at all times.Obviously Dude has more money than some of us here..
Why are you starting a slanging match, you internet warrior you...
I don’t think Arturia’s business ethics in regards to customers that have shown loyalty for years are cool, do you?
(Notice no childish name calling needed...)
- KVRAF
- 22932 posts since 8 Oct, 2014
Come on guys, just do the math. It doesn't even come close to adding up.
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- KVRAF
- 5913 posts since 25 Jan, 2007
Thanks SJ, I'll definitely have a play with AL3 in the coming days.
Price... if you want the update cheaper, then simply wait 6 months. Ta da!
(SJ again... haaaa!!!)
Price... if you want the update cheaper, then simply wait 6 months. Ta da!
(SJ again... haaaa!!!)
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- KVRAF
- 22932 posts since 8 Oct, 2014
Let's look at it from another angle.
Brand new customers get a $100 discount on release day. That's pretty normal for a release. Makes people get it early so as not to miss out on the lower price.
Existing customers have to wait 6 months to get that same $100 discount.
This leaves such a bad taste in existing customer's mouths it isn't funny.
Brand new customers get a $100 discount on release day. That's pretty normal for a release. Makes people get it early so as not to miss out on the lower price.
Existing customers have to wait 6 months to get that same $100 discount.
This leaves such a bad taste in existing customer's mouths it isn't funny.
- KVRAF
- 22932 posts since 8 Oct, 2014
Hey, you know what? I'm not even asking for better treatment than new customers just because I've been a customer since 2014. I'm just asking to be treated the same. But I'm not. I'm being penalized for being an old customer.egbert101 wrote:Talk about first world problems.get a grip people, stop crying like babies and just state your opinions like adults.
- KVRAF
- 6097 posts since 5 Jul, 2001 from Just about .... there
I don't believe you understand what business ethics aresimmo75 wrote:business ethics
I've said it before .. I never quite know what people mean by loyalty. It's a meaningless twist of words.in regards to customers that have shown loyalty for years are cool
I have not problem with it .. I also don't have a problem with wags or others saying they don't believe the price is not equitable in their opinion. Fine. But you are painting these guys as a room full of corporate fat cats that lighting cigars with hundred dollar bills and laughing hysterically at us for tossing random money their direction. The price isn't set to insult you. I doubt they looked in the Rolodex to see who they could piss off with the price. More likely they figure out the cost of production vs the cost of keeping the doors open vs the number of copies likely to sell over x period of time .... wait of course they don't do that ..., do you?
well come on this is the internet, what fun is that(Notice no childish name calling needed...)
If you have to ask, you can't afford the answer
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- KVRAF
- 1602 posts since 14 Oct, 2002
I don't want in anyway offend any kvrer here nor Arturia wich i respect a lot as a software and hardware company. And i'm a long time Arturia legit user and customer. I just want humbly to say that the math about the price is not very fair to long time customers and i am on the same line as wagtunes. That said it is perfectly in Arturia's rights to do the price policy they like. And it's perfectly in my rights to say my opinion and to do my next choices as a customer. I still have to decide what to do. Invest 199€ now or wait for a discount. Or forget about being an Arturis cutomer without losing my respect for what they do.
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- KVRAF
- 1602 posts since 14 Oct, 2002
And that said Easel and CMI seems very fine! And DX7 too...it eats DX7 Sysex too..as Dexed 

