KVR Audio

Straight2Vinyl · Post by **Straight2Vinyl** » Tue Oct 30, 2018 5:03 pm

My next major purchase, god willing, will be a Seaboard Rise 49. So until Arturia begins incorporating MPE, I'll pass. It's a nice deal at 50 percent off though of course.

Tj Shredder · Post by **Tj Shredder** » Tue Oct 30, 2018 5:16 pm

Me too, MPE is essential...
And I would love to see a modeled UPIC. I could get them a contact for a real one, its even in France...

V0RT3X · Post by **V0RT3X** » Tue Oct 30, 2018 11:45 pm

Should I even buy this even though I own nearly all the U-he stuff or should I just buy Zebra and finish my collection.. hmm

choices..

dangayle · Post by **dangayle** » Wed Oct 31, 2018 1:06 am

V0RT3X wrote: Tue Oct 30, 2018 11:45 pm Should I even buy this even though I own nearly all the U-he stuff or should I just buy Zebra and finish my collection.. hmm

choices..

As good as Zebra is, DX7 is a new masterpiece. Add the Buchla, the CMI and the updated Synclavier? Definitely worth the extra money over the price of Zebra.

dangayle · Post by **dangayle** » Wed Oct 31, 2018 1:08 am

Not that Zebra is bad or in any way lacking. It’s the most powerful general purpose synth out there. But the Arturia ones are more narrow and specialized in focus in ways that Zebra aren’t.

Tj Shredder · Post by **Tj Shredder** » Wed Oct 31, 2018 6:34 am

The V collection is there to feed your nostalgica or if your are interested in hands on history. To create and design sounds in the most flexible and advanced way, you‘d rather look for something else... (Halion, Reaktor, Zebra, Synthmaster etc...)
And to finish your collection is probably a good idea anyway, you don‘t need to buy anything for that...

egbert101 · Post by **egbert101** » Wed Oct 31, 2018 8:09 am

Agreed about the nostalgia, but it all comes down to sound. Some of the sounds of like the Synclavier, DX7, etc., are what is wanted, rather than a general purpose workhorse. Some people actually make music that is based in the 80s, for example, so emulations are both required, and appreciated.

martinjuenke · Post by **martinjuenke** » Wed Oct 31, 2018 8:29 am

Tj Shredder wrote: Wed Oct 31, 2018 6:34 am The V collection is there to feed your nostalgica or if your are interested in hands on history. To create and design sounds in the most flexible and advanced way, you‘d rather look for something else... (Halion, Reaktor, Zebra, Synthmaster etc...)
And to finish your collection is probably a good idea anyway, you don‘t need to buy anything for that...

I couldn‘t agree more with you. The whole Arturia stuff sounds so outdated and onedimensional to me... Add the customer unfriendly upgrade pricing scheme that leads to permanent high costs maintaining the Collection and you know what to to!

noiseboyuk · Post by **noiseboyuk** » Wed Oct 31, 2018 8:31 am

egbert101 wrote: Wed Oct 31, 2018 8:09 am Agreed about the nostalgia, but it all comes down to sound. Some of the sounds of like the Synclavier, DX7, etc., are what is wanted, rather than a general purpose workhorse. Some people actually make music that is based in the 80s, for example, so emulations are both required, and appreciated.

This is true. I'm far more in love with the analogue 70s early 80s era than the mid 80s garishness of the DX7 or indeed Synclavier. Those synths can of course produce sounds that analogue never could and they really work well for some specific timbres, but overall as I muck around with the Synclavier most of the time I'm just thinking "yuk".

But as for more analogue emulations... I dunno, I think the seemingly eternal quest to model literally every bit of hardware released to complete perfection is something of a fools endeavour. The reality is that this is already a pretty mature market, and only marginal gains and increasingly subtle variances to distinguish one from another. Famously some of Arturia's specific emulsions aren't cutting edge so they could be updated, but its hard to imagine they could really bring too much to rival some of the competitors.

dangayle · Post by **dangayle** » Wed Oct 31, 2018 8:36 am

Have any of you tried creating FM patches in DX7? It's really, really nice. Such a clean, friendly interface. Just because it screams 1980s doesn't mean that you can't get really, really cool patches out of it, no nostalgia required. It is legitimately a good, powerful FM synthesizer.

AcrossTheSky · Post by **AcrossTheSky** » Wed Oct 31, 2018 10:24 am

martinjuenke wrote: Wed Oct 31, 2018 8:29 am
Tj Shredder wrote: Wed Oct 31, 2018 6:34 am The V collection is there to feed your nostalgica or if your are interested in hands on history. To create and design sounds in the most flexible and advanced way, you‘d rather look for something else... (Halion, Reaktor, Zebra, Synthmaster etc...)
And to finish your collection is probably a good idea anyway, you don‘t need to buy anything for that...
I couldn‘t agree more with you. The whole Arturia stuff sounds so outdated and onedimensional to me... Add the customer unfriendly upgrade pricing scheme that leads to permanent high costs maintaining the Collection and you know what to to!

The interesting thing is...The sounds produced with the Collection are Classic-Vintage-Nostalgic taking you back in time - bringing memories back ... I really listened to a lot of electronic music - everything there was : the album that took me into a deep state of dream/meditation is :

It's just an amazing album !! ..

.Now..I'm listening everything by The Flashbulb - huge amount of music that - has great variety of sounds coming from the era the Arturia V Collection 6 covers and more.I find all sort of sounds that I'd say are built in now in my DNA

...and so many more that are NEW and Up to Date -
so ...I'd say ...I found music that ticks 99% of the boxes..
One may like it or not but Any given music fits perfectly in a specific time.

At present I'm enjoying the :
flexe programmable love songs
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=P ... 145naWfWmE

....the lead on Fashion Beagle is just fu....great...lol

Find your music - produce your music - And enjoy all you like

SLiC · Post by **SLiC** » Wed Oct 31, 2018 12:29 pm

Personally I am a little annoyed that a 'new user' can get the entire collection of 16 instruments for the same cost as I have to pay to get 3 instruments

As usual loyal and long term users are punished.

egbert101 · Post by **egbert101** » Wed Oct 31, 2018 12:37 pm

Personally I am a little annoyed that a 'new user' can get the entire collection of 16 instruments for the same cost as I have to pay to get 3 instruments As usual loyal and long term users are punished.

In the end, they are a business. They have to do what they do in order to survive. Loyalty only makes sense for smaller developers. But it works both ways, I no longer have the interest to keep paying for updates or their new products , precisely because Arturia no longer care about their loyal customer base.

dumbledog · Post by **dumbledog** » Wed Oct 31, 2018 2:39 pm

fmr wrote: Tue Oct 30, 2018 9:24 am Don't count on that

Ha! You'd know better than me so I'll take your word for it

0degree · Post by **0degree** » Wed Oct 31, 2018 3:56 pm

dumbledog wrote: Wed Oct 31, 2018 2:39 pm
fmr wrote: Tue Oct 30, 2018 9:24 am Don't count on that
Ha! You'd know better than me so I'll take your word for it

Why is that? I was really anticipating V7. Are they planning to have a longer release cycle?