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egbert101 wrote: Wed Oct 31, 2018 12:37 pm
Personally I am a little annoyed that a 'new user' can get the entire collection of 16 instruments for the same cost as I have to pay to get 3 instruments :dog: As usual loyal and long term users are punished.
Loyalty only makes sense for smaller developers. But it works both ways, I no longer have the interest to keep paying for updates or their new products , precisely because Arturia no longer care about their loyal customer base.
I don't agree.
As a loyal customer, I had a very good deal with '3 preamps you'll actually use' at less than 25% of the actual price. I had an upgrade from the standard 5 collection to the full 6 collection for 200 euro's. These are pretty sweet deals.

Granted, I feel somewhat annoyed with the current deal where newcomers can get the whole bunch for 250 euro's but this is one time only deal. New customers will be happy about it, I'm less happy about but you can't say that Arturia does not care about their customer base.

There are companies that fit much better into that category.

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Stefken wrote: Wed Oct 31, 2018 6:51 pm Granted, I feel somewhat annoyed with the current deal where newcomers can get the whole bunch for 250 euro's but this is one time only deal.
It's frequently on sale, actually. I bought the collection for €249 back in May, and there was another sale during the summer IIRC. It only seems fair that they'd also discount the upgrade price by 50% during these sales, especially now that v6 has been out for a while.

But yeah, there are many much worse companies than Arturia.
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I had an upgrade from the standard 5 collection to the full 6 collection for 200 euro's. These are pretty sweet deals.
Sweet deal for a sale off the full price, not a sweet deal for an upgrade if you've already spent the same price on the full product.
<list your stupid gear here>

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0degree wrote: Wed Oct 31, 2018 3:56 pm
dumbledog wrote: Wed Oct 31, 2018 2:39 pm
fmr wrote: Tue Oct 30, 2018 9:24 am Don't count on that :borg:
Ha! You'd know better than me so I'll take your word for it :tu:
Why is that? I was really anticipating V7. Are they planning to have a longer release cycle?
My feeling is they are going to release another 4 or so synths around xmas. I'm hoping they emulate an EMS VCS3, if so I'll be updating.

N.I. just finished a 50% off deal on V6, Arturia will probably do a similar Black Friday deal to suck a few more customers in and update soon after.

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Actually that is a good strategy ... wait for the next big update. For me the upgrade price from V5 seemed steep (I upgraded to Piano V2) but if they add a few more toys to the collection waiting for V7 and then paying for the upgrade makes sense to me.

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[novel mode on]

Up until a couple of versions ago, Arturia used to have an overly generous upgrade policy. It was possible to upgrade from one version to the next, for $99… AND .. sell your prior version. I did this for 2 prior version upgrades. It basically cost nothing to do my upgrades. Somewhere along the line, Arturia must have figured out, that allowing licensees to both upgrade, and sell their prior versions was costing them money. So.. they killed both. You could upgrade, but your prior license became NFR. (fair deal, actually). Last year though, they doubled the upgrade price. So… it was a one-two punch. The first seemed reasonable (going NFR after upgrading), but doubling the upgrade price made me reconsider the value proposition. Of the VC 6 new stuff, it is only the DX7 that I wanted full editing control of.

Users get a boatload of presets from new VC 6 instruments if you own Analog Lab, the primary real-time controls are available, and pre-mapped to (Arturia) hardware. So as an AL user — you get the new instruments, with a shltload of presets, and pretty great real-time control of the timbres… free.

Also.. us VC5 owners picked up free upgrades to existing instruments to their VC6 versions (except the Piano V2), with the roll-out. This provides the upgrades, and full control of the instruments you had to the latest versions.. free. Win

So I moaned and groaned about not having a $100 upgrade to the three new instruments of VC6. I still got the Analog Lab presets for the new instruments, along with real-time control.. free. Frankly, what Arturia offered is fair. If they release a version 7, with new instruments, that I want full editing capabilities for (as I do with the DX-7)… maybe that will push the value proposition over the edge.. and I’ll pickup the upgrade for $200. If not… Arturia still has a generous (free) upgrade for existing instruments policy..

Joe

[/novel off]

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I'm still waiting for someone to nail the ARP Pro Soloist. :)
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billw wrote: Fri Nov 09, 2018 4:27 pm I'm still waiting for someone to nail the ARP Pro Soloist. :)
I'm hoping the long awaited Korg update will include something like a Quadra or Pro Soloist...

I can dream!

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Zipede wrote: Fri Nov 09, 2018 5:10 pm
billw wrote: Fri Nov 09, 2018 4:27 pm I'm still waiting for someone to nail the ARP Pro Soloist. :)
I'm hoping the long awaited Korg update will include something like a Quadra or Pro Soloist...

I can dream!
Korg has much better in their past line of products than the Pro Soloist IMO, like the Trident Mk II and the PS series, if they care to emulate.
Fernando (FMR)

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fmr wrote: Fri Nov 09, 2018 5:15 pm
Zipede wrote: Fri Nov 09, 2018 5:10 pm
billw wrote: Fri Nov 09, 2018 4:27 pm I'm still waiting for someone to nail the ARP Pro Soloist. :)
I'm hoping the long awaited Korg update will include something like a Quadra or Pro Soloist...

I can dream!
Korg has much better in their past line of products than the Pro Soloist IMO, like the Trident Mk II and the PS series, if they care to emulate.
Well naturally I'm hoping for a PS3300 from them as well, but they already have one Arp product, so they may continue in that direction as well :)

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I think well see some more effect emulations.

The 80s are pretty fashionable at the moment. Hardware prices are quite 'healthy' even for prosumer stuff from 80s/90s. Theres nothing quite like the grunginess of the old stuff that gives that hardware sound many are after.

Modern effects hardware and software are just too perfect and clean for some.
Give me a glitchy pitchshifter with artifacts and a grainy verb any day :)

Although it is easy to make your own filthy effect chains just look at the popularity of dirtifying effects at the moment.

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He who remembers the 80s has not lived it in full manner…

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there was a lot more to the 80s than cocaine lol
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ATS wrote: Fri Nov 09, 2018 10:36 pm there was a lot more to the 80s than cocaine lol
Yeah, I had homework

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VariKusBrainZ wrote: Fri Nov 09, 2018 10:41 pm
ATS wrote: Fri Nov 09, 2018 10:36 pm there was a lot more to the 80s than cocaine lol
Yeah, I had homework
me too.
plus acid, mdma and weed. oh and shrooms too.
:ud:

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