Is there a Guitar VST that can do actually decent rhythm guitar?

[DrMEM]

Here's a comparison between a sequenced vst rhythm guitar and a real rhythm guitar recorded DI into my audio interface. Both guitars were double-tracked and panned hard left/right (as per best practices for rhythm guitars) and had the exact same fx applied. They have slightly different tone (being different guitars and all), so listen just to the performance and see how much you prefer one over the other. I've included the guitars by themselves and also alongside drums and bass for comparison.

https://drive.google.com/open?id=10tvTU ... rNm2buQWD1

I'm curious what the rest of the forum thinks.

[jancivil]

The answer to Z question is no. You cant emulate rhythm guitar, especially clean guitar like doing anything resembling funk or southern rock etc. Take the latest one, NI sunburst. I've heard it and... it just aint right

You can't. If I have to, I can. Seriously. We get this a lot here, but all it is people that decide because they lack the skills there are no such skills obtainable. And it's usually people that haven't really had the interest. CF: 'a poor workman blames his tools'.

[shidostrife]

I used shreddage 1 and KMG7 for 'Battle2' here: https://www.shidostrifemusic.com/produc ... aster-pack

Turned out pretty well, I think. More experienced users could definitely do better.

Both requires full Kontakt, though. But Shreddage 2 doesn't, and it has a lot more capabilities than Shreddage 1.

[Kinh]

The answer to Z question is no. You cant emulate rhythm guitar, especially clean guitar like doing anything resembling funk or southern rock etc. Take the latest one, NI sunburst. I've heard it and... it just aint right

You can't. If I have to, I can. Seriously. We get this a lot here, but all it is people that decide because they lack the skills there are no such skills obtainable. And it's usually people that haven't really had the interest. CF: 'a poor workman blames his tools'.

Ok. Then all i need now is some links of your tracks where you've used a rhythm guitar vst with success. Whats that? You dont have any? I wonder why.

[el-bo (formerly ebow)]

Then all i need now is some links of your tracks where you've used a rhythm guitar vst with success. Whats that? You dont have any? I wonder why.

Thousands of members here, and you're talking to yourself

[Aloysius]

I agree 100% with that genius who said 'buy some guitar loops'. You can easily manipulate them in any half way decent DAW (if required).

[Kinh]

Then all i need now is some links of your tracks where you've used a rhythm guitar vst with success. Whats that? You dont have any? I wonder why.

Thousands of members here, and you're talking to yourself

then why did you respond idiot?

[Kinh]

How about the Strum Session from AAS? https://www.applied-acoustics.com/session-bundle/

It was free recently with the Focusrite Plugin Collective. I haven't used it myself but it seems easy to use.

Dude, I know you're trying to help and I applaud you for that
But AAS is just as bad as the rest. I think the OP is after something as close to a real rhythm guitarist. There's really no vst out dere for dat.
You're much better off just going for rex loops if you want something that's syncable but they aren't gonna cut it like wavs imo

See, the problem is groove, not the actual tonal sounds because they can be triggered as they are. What we need is a sample based vst that slices each transient but able to use ratio based groove templates on every transient or slice, also control over velocity, also having multi layered velocity like Trilian. The ones on the market atm dont do any of that, you have no control over ghost notes or anything. They're designed for enthusiasts.

BIAB is another alternative but it doesn't do any modern genres (even funk) and it's format is only 16bit wav, which means it's useless.

[Gamma-UT]

You put ghost notes, bends and harmonics on another channel with a different instance of the instrument that's set up for melodic rather than chord playing. You also subtly change the chord on each strum to reflect the guitarist not quite hitting all the strings or dealing with the tiny fingering changes a real guitarist might make for variation. If you mash the strum key with the three basic chords the written song might have of course it's going to sound fake. It's not rocket science.

[el-bo (formerly ebow)]

Then all i need now is some links of your tracks where you've used a rhythm guitar vst with success. Whats that? You dont have any? I wonder why.

Thousands of members here, and you're talking to yourself

then why did you respond idiot?

Well, just like a ranting whino, you are talking to yourself in plain view of everyone. I'm just suggesting that you might prefer discourse, in which case it's better to leave the questions to be answered by whom you are addressing.

DIG !!??

[Hink]

and I just want to add a reminder that there is no need for personal insults

[mcbpete]

Dude, I know you're trying to help and I applaud you for that
But AAS is just as bad as the rest

I've got the modelling collection suite and use every other VSTi but I'm trying to work out how Strum manages to be quite as terrible as it really is - And this is Version 2 of it! I played with keyboards at school in the 90s that sounded more guitar like than AAS's offering, I don't quite understand it. Has anyone managed to get a decent sound from it ?

[wagtunes]

Dude, I know you're trying to help and I applaud you for that
But AAS is just as bad as the rest

I've got the modelling collection suite and use every other VSTi but I'm trying to work out how Strum manages to be quite as terrible as it really is - And this is Version 2 of it! I played with keyboards at school in the 90s that sounded more guitar like than AAS's offering, I don't quite understand it. Has anyone managed to get a decent sound from it ?

AAS Strum is just plain terrible. End of story. I only bought it at the time because I didn't know anything else existed. I never use it anymore as Real Guitar and Vir2 guitars are infinitely better, even if they aren't perfect.

[donkey tugger]

A tad harsh on the AAS strum there - it does take a bit of work and the presets are not great. The acoustics are, shall we say, useful in a background context as you can get some percussive strummed sounds. Not suitable for anything upfront. The electric stuff when paired with the right amps sims (and good use of velocities/articulations/automation can be quite good. I did replace the distorted riddim guitars (and others) in this with real ones eventually, but to me the AAS ones in this don't sound too bad (I can tell, your discerning musician could tell, Johnny man in the street, mebbe not...). The solos are of course real - it would take some programming to make it sound that bad... Everything else programmed with various libraries on laptop whilst away with work.

http://www.bennyleeds7.myfreeola.uk/theman-demo.mp3

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FWIW, Strum GS-2 sounds a lot better (IMO) when run through Revalver 4's ACT Input Shaper with an acoustic guitar Target Profile. The individual ACT modules aren't very expensive, and they can be demoed prior to purchase.

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